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Topic   Persona 3 Portable remake - wtf

theyrhere
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews
22-Dec-2022(#1)
Looks lazy. I was decently hyped at first, but damn. Really, none of the 3D social environment of the original? The point and click crap they had to do for PSP? All FES really needed was female protagonist and full party control in battle, but instead we get this.

FES was/is one of the most important games to me that I have ever played, so sorry for the rant lol.
dunno001
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
22-Dec-2022(#2)
Is Answer in the remake? If not, I'm gonna be stuck keeping Marin fudgein' Karin FES around…
Tiredman
Silver Good Trader
23-Dec-2022(#3)
theyrhere wrote:
> Looks lazy. I was decently hyped at first, but damn. Really, none of the 3D social
> environment of the original? The point and click crap they had to do for PSP? All
> FES really needed was female protagonist and full party control in battle, but instead
> we get this.
>
> FES was/is one of the most important games to me that I have ever played, so sorry
> for the rant lol.

From what I have read, the devs lost the code for FES so we will never see it. I feel the same way you do.
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
23-Dec-2022(#4)
If I’ve never played 3, but loved 4 and 5 is this new version the way to go or what would you recommend?
theyrhere
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews
23-Dec-2022(#5)
The only reason I'd say go with the new version is that you can directly control all party members in battle. If you don't mind them auto battling, 3 FES is the way to go, that's how I played it. It's a great game and has a much darker tone than 4 or 5.
Orlandu
Double Gold Good Trader
23-Dec-2022(#6)
There's a controllable party members cheat for P3 Fes that works pretty well in an emulator.
Gypsy
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24-Dec-2022(#7)
I was annoyed when this was announced. I forgot about it and now I'm annoyed again LOL.
Heavyd814life
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28-Dec-2022(#8)
Shane12m wrote:
> If I’ve never played 3, but loved 4 and 5 is this new version the way to go or what
> would you recommend?

FES all the way! Mitsuru will drive you crazy because she casts Marin Karin all the damn time, but it's the definitive experience. At least until Atlus comes to its senses and gives us a proper remake.

Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
29-Dec-2022(#9)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Shane12m wrote:
>> If I’ve never played 3, but loved 4 and 5 is this new version the way to go or
> what
>> would you recommend?
>
> FES all the way! Mitsuru will drive you crazy because she casts Marin Karin all the
> damn time, but it's the definitive experience. At least until Atlus comes to its
> senses and gives us a proper remake.
>
>

I played P3P first, on the PSP back in the day. Then played FES on a PS2. And I 100% disagree. I think Portable is a much better version than FES.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
29-Dec-2022(#10)
Archer wrote:
> Heavyd814life wrote:
>> Shane12m wrote:
> |>> If I’ve never played 3, but loved 4 and 5 is this new version the way to go or
>> what
> |>> would you recommend?
>>
>> FES all the way! Mitsuru will drive you crazy because she casts Marin Karin all
> the
>> damn time, but it's the definitive experience. At least until Atlus comes to its
>> senses and gives us a proper remake.
>>
>>
>
> I played P3P first, on the PSP back in the day. Then played FES on a PS2. And I 100%
> disagree. I think Portable is a much better version than FES.

I'd agree that it's a better game in terms of the core gameplay since it's basically Persona 4. That and the inclusion of the female protagonist are big highlights. I played it and loved it, but it's far too streamlined for my liking. No anime cutscenes, not being able to free roam, and the entire overworld just being a giant menu essentially...I didn't hate the visual novel style, but it doesn't hit the same way seeing everything play out in 3D does, imo.

Plus I love The Answer. I know P3 fans are split on it and I know you could just Youtube the cutscenes, but the entire P3 experience feels incomplete without it.

Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
19-Jan-2023(#11)
Archer wrote:
> Heavyd814life wrote:
>> Shane12m wrote:
> |>> If I’ve never played 3, but loved 4 and 5 is this new version the way to go or
>> what
> |>> would you recommend?
>>
>> FES all the way! Mitsuru will drive you crazy because she casts Marin Karin all
> the
>> damn time, but it's the definitive experience. At least until Atlus comes to its
>> senses and gives us a proper remake.
>>
>>
>
> I played P3P first, on the PSP back in the day. Then played FES on a PS2. And I 100%
> disagree. I think Portable is a much better version than FES.

I stand corrected!
Holy crap is this port bad. I can't play this. They did nothing to this. Its the exact mobile version from PSP on console. And its terrible like this. They didn't even modernize the controls to a controller. They just re-mapped a couple buttons. Its awful. The game worked on PSP/Vita like this. But what a terrible experience with a controller 14 years later. I'd rather dig out the PS2 and play FES than even attempt to play this version. But instead I'll just go be a big bro and play the best persona game, P4G.
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
19-Jan-2023(#12)
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If they won't sell it to you, take it.
Kommie
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
19-Jan-2023(#13)
DarkFact wrote:
> 500 206{imgt}
>
> If they won't sell it to you, take it.


You will legally buy it and you'll like it!
theyrhere
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews
20-Jan-2023(#14)
Archer wrote:
> Archer wrote:
>> Heavyd814life wrote:
> |>> Shane12m wrote:
>> |>> If I’ve never played 3, but loved 4 and 5 is this new version the way to go
> or
> |>> what
>> |>> would you recommend?
> |>>
> |>> FES all the way! Mitsuru will drive you crazy because she casts Marin Karin all
>> the
> |>> damn time, but it's the definitive experience. At least until Atlus comes to
> its
> |>> senses and gives us a proper remake.
> |>>
> |>>
>>
>> I played P3P first, on the PSP back in the day. Then played FES on a PS2. And
> I 100%
>> disagree. I think Portable is a much better version than FES.
>
> I stand corrected!
> Holy crap is this port bad. I can't play this. They did nothing to this. Its the
> exact mobile version from PSP on console. And its terrible like this. They didn't
> even modernize the controls to a controller. They just re-mapped a couple buttons.
> Its awful. The game worked on PSP/Vita like this. But what a terrible experience
> with a controller 14 years later. I'd rather dig out the PS2 and play FES than even
> attempt to play this version. But instead I'll just go be a big bro and play the
> best persona game, P4G.

Fudge. When I saw the $20 price point I was like oh well, good compromise. But it sucks that bad? Dammit
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
20-Jan-2023(#15)
theyrhere wrote:
>
> Fudge. When I saw the $20 price point I was like oh well, good compromise. But it
> sucks that bad? Dammit

I mean, its still a great game. It would just take some getting used to playing it like that. And I could have very well overreacted to the controller setup. I played on Xbox via gamepass. But it did feel really bad trying to play it on an xbox controller. I can't speak for PS4/5 controller setup. But oddly P4G feels much better on that controller. They updated that one. But that may also just be due to that releasing on the Vita and not the PSP. The Vita had more buttons due to the dual touch screen. So they didn't really have much to do than re-map a couple inputs.
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
20-Jan-2023(#16)
I think it's mostly fine. Buy it and then snag an ISO IMO, if you need FES. Or just pay twice as much to pick it up on PS2. I'm at least gonna install it off PC Game Pass.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
20-Jan-2023(#17)
DarkFact wrote:
> I think it's mostly fine. Buy it and then snag an ISO IMO, if you need FES. Or
> just pay twice as much to pick it up on PS2. I'm at least gonna install it off PC
> Game Pass.

It would probably be a much better experience on PC with a mouse. Since its just a point and click 75% of the game in this version.
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
20-Jan-2023(#18)
I'm noticing that, I was like was this game always a visual novel?
Orlandu
Double Gold Good Trader
* 20-Jan-2023(#19)
Emulator with fast-forward is a godsend. Save states are also super helpful when hunting for enemies with rare drops.
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 20-Jan-2023(#20)
Honestly, pacing for the PSP game seems godlike. I might try out FES later but this seems fine so far, only stopped playing to get up, get some water and do some push-ups, gotta keep it tite. Already inside Tartarus.
FinalFantasyForever
Silver Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 1 Review
20-Jan-2023(#21)
That's unfortunate.
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
20-Jan-2023(#22)
It's definitely weird. In like, an hour and ten minutes of gameplay I think I got 7 minutes of what I would consider to be Persona ...gameplay. The rest was clicking through the story. It's not a bad story, but if I already knew it I'd be miffed
theyrhere
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews
20-Jan-2023(#23)
I still ended up getting it on Switch. At least its portable. I'm a cuck dog. I do have FES but portability is crucial for JRPGs with kids and total party control is so much better.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
21-Jan-2023(#24)
I would imagine its fine on Switch. That would be like playing it on a giant PSP, lol.
theyrhere
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews
21-Jan-2023(#25)
It's fine. I just miss the fully 3d world of FES so much. That battle system is a deal breaker though.

Fun story, in my multiple moves I lost my UMD of P3P but still have the case, forever taunting me of the money I could sell it for.
FinalFantasyForever
Silver Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 1 Review
21-Jan-2023(#26)
Persona 3 FES was "fully 3D" and not Persona 3 Portable?
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 21-Jan-2023(#27)
well yeah, Persona 3 was fully 3D. This is just a port of the PSP remake which is basically a VN with occasional dungeon and fight sequences, extremely rudimentary. The rest is just 2D shots of the 3D game with chat bubbles over it.

It was made for PSP so it sorta makes sense? Not in the context of 2023 tho
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
21-Jan-2023(#28)
Soundtrack is still 100% amazing.

theyrhere
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews
21-Jan-2023(#29)
Archer wrote:
> Soundtrack is still 100% amazing.

God I love the P5 soundtrack but this one has the highest ratio of absolute fudging bangers
theyrhere
Bronze Good Trader Has Written 2 Reviews
21-Jan-2023(#30)
When you're in Tartarus (which I actually like as a dungeon, unlike everyone else) you forget it's a subpar version of the overall game.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
21-Jan-2023(#31)
Archer wrote:
> Soundtrack is still 100% amazing.
>
>

Memories of You is probably my all-time fav credits song. I think Weight of the World from Nier Automata is the only track that even comes close. Damn, you guys are going to make me dust off my PS2 to replay this game lol. But I kinda want to wait to see if the rumored P3 remake is actually a thing.

Tiredman
Silver Good Trader
22-Jan-2023(#32)
Same here. Haven't replayed it in a while, so if there is a remake, here is hoping it doe the Fez version justice.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
22-Jan-2023(#33)
I can't imagine the remake rumor is true. It would hurt sales of this one. And hurt sales of the remake. As people wouldn't play it again so soon. Unless its not coming out until 2025 or something.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
22-Jan-2023(#34)
Also I gave this another shot after talking about it so much. Didn't expect to end up playing this, but am now over 5 hours into the game.
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
22-Jan-2023(#35)
Yeah it's okay
Tiredman
Silver Good Trader
22-Jan-2023(#36)
Archer wrote:
> I can't imagine the remake rumor is true. It would hurt sales of this one. And hurt
> sales of the remake. As people wouldn't play it again so soon. Unless its not coming
> out until 2025 or something.


Dragon Quest 3
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
23-Jan-2023(#37)
Tiredman wrote:
> Archer wrote:
>> I can't imagine the remake rumor is true. It would hurt sales of this one. And
> hurt
>> sales of the remake. As people wouldn't play it again so soon. Unless its not
> coming
>> out until 2025 or something.
>
>
> Dragon Quest 3

Mass Effect 3? What are we doing here?
Tiredman
Silver Good Trader
23-Jan-2023(#38)
Archer wrote:
> Tiredman wrote:
>> Archer wrote:
> |>> I can't imagine the remake rumor is true. It would hurt sales of this one. And
>> hurt
> |>> sales of the remake. As people wouldn't play it again so soon. Unless its not
>> coming
> |>> out until 2025 or something.
>>
>>
>> Dragon Quest 3
>
> Mass Effect 3? What are we doing here?


Just pointing out the same company released a Dragon Quest 3 remaster last year with a remake of 3 coming out this year.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
23-Jan-2023(#39)
Tiredman wrote:
>
> Just pointing out the same company released a Dragon Quest 3 remaster last year with
> a remake of 3 coming out this year.

Ah ok.

After looking it up however, DQ3 was released on the Switch in 2019. And they announced a remake of it in 2021. Which may or may not come out in 2023, as there has been no official news or a release date announced from them since. Also DQ is SqEnix, not Atlus.

But to your point, Atlus has been known to release game updates one year apart. Even using P3 as an example, FES came out exactly one year after the original P3. Same with P5 and P5R. But for this one though, Atlus has not said anything. Its just rumor from fans.

But the reality is I'm just trying to convince myself I'm not wasting my own time playing this now. Only to be annoyed a better version is released within the next year, lol.
Tiredman
Silver Good Trader
23-Jan-2023(#40)
Archer wrote:
> After looking it up however, DQ3 was released on the Switch in 2019. And they announced
> a remake of it in 2021. Which may or may not come out in 2023,

It makes me sad to realize how far off my sense of time is.... It doesnt feel like it has been 3 and a half years since the trilogy released on switch. Oh well.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
26-Jan-2023(#41)
Triple brown, triple brown, triple brown, meow!
Feeb
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* 28-Jan-2023(#42)
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Just found this in a storage box of ps2 games. Oh wow. Sealed and minty.
FinalFantasyForever
Silver Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 1 Review
28-Jan-2023(#43)
Nice. I sold my sealed Persona 3 FES a few years back.
Feeb
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
28-Jan-2023(#44)
FinalFantasyForever wrote:
> Nice. I sold my sealed Persona 3 FES a few years back.

I had no idea there was a set with FES in it. Thought mine was just OG.
Orlandu
Double Gold Good Trader
28-Jan-2023(#45)
Now I wonder what mine is. Outer seal is broken but the game itself is sealed, so probably not too terribly much value.
FinalFantasyForever
Silver Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 1 Review
29-Jan-2023(#46)
I do have all the PSP Persona games sealed too.
dunno001
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30-Jan-2023(#47)
Feeb wrote:
> FinalFantasyForever wrote:
>> Nice. I sold my sealed Persona 3 FES a few years back.
>
> I had no idea there was a set with FES in it. Thought mine was just OG.

Neither did I, and I had FES preordered. I'm actually wondering if the box is a reseal, since that is the same box and art book that came with the first run of the original…
Feeb
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* 30-Jan-2023(#48)
dunno001 wrote:
> Feeb wrote:
>> FinalFantasyForever wrote:
> |>> Nice. I sold my sealed Persona 3 FES a few years back.
>>
>> I had no idea there was a set with FES in it. Thought mine was just OG.
>
> Neither did I, and I had FES preordered. I'm actually wondering if the box is a reseal,
> since that is the same box and art book that came with the first run of the original…

It’s a real thing. I bought mine at a sears that was clearancing the video games. I actually grabbed up all of the P3 deluxe editions at like 10$ each and have 4 OG and that one FES. All retail.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
2-Feb-2023(#49)
Seeing that sealed FES reminded me that I have the Junpei hat from P3 in my closet.

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I don't think I've ever worn it. Its just been sitting there for well over a decade.
Feeb
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
2-Feb-2023(#50)
Archer wrote:
> Seeing that sealed FES reminded me that I have the Junpei hat from P3 in my closet.
>
>
>
> I don't think I've ever worn it. Its just been sitting there for well over a decade.
>

I have it somewhere as well. It’s worth a bit if it’s unworn for sure. Even if.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
4-Feb-2023(#51)
I would have much preferred to play FES for all the animations. But I have to say, I really enjoyed this playthrough. I might actually now do a second to get all the achievements and finally see the FemMC route. I've never finished a FemMC run. Although P4G is calling. So maybe after that. Not sure I can sit through the same story for another 60 hours back to back like that.

Topic   Persona 3 Portable remake - wtf