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Sun
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2-Oct-2019(#1)
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Anyone else excited for AEW Dynamite tonight?
Sun
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5-Jan-2023(#41)
Is it Monet or Money? Seems like no one knows.
BucketofJustice
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5-Jan-2023(#42)
I think it's Mone.
akfa
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* 5-Jan-2023(#43)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/vince-mcmahon-plots-r...

Vince planning to return to sell the company I guess, I don't have WSJ so i'm sorry for the paywall article
PizzaTheHutt
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5-Jan-2023(#44)
Apparently the FTC are looking to do away with non-compete clauses in contracts. I wonder if this will affect WWE/AEW too, or if they can just change the wording around to bypass it.

PizzaTheHutt
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5-Jan-2023(#45)
Fire Pro Wrestling World is on sale for $10 in the PlayStation Store. I bought it last night. I've owned it on Steam for years (since it was in Early Access) but haven't played it yet. I'm much more likely to play it on console (though I was hoping for a Switch port but I guess it's not happening).
https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP4774...
beavis
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5-Jan-2023(#46)
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> Fire Pro Wrestling World is on sale for $10 in the PlayStation Store. I bought it
> last night. I've owned it on Steam for years (since it was in Early Access) but haven't
> played it yet. I'm much more likely to play it on console (though I was hoping for
> a Switch port but I guess it's not happening).
>

Never played these, do they have control schemes like the N64 games, the modern 2k games, or different than both? I've been waiting for more news on the AEW game but still haven't seen a solid release date yet.
theJaw
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* 5-Jan-2023(#47)
Fire Pro is way different than other games. You can't just spam moves and whatnot, and it's not like the old 16-bit WWF games where you just need to wear an opponent out. The gameplay is molded around building an actually good MATCH, the way a wrestler would. So you need to start with "light" moves, and build to the bigger stuff and then finishers. It actually incorporates wrestling "psychology", which is real neat. I love that they grade matches afterwards.

Fire Pro World is a great game, but all FP games have a definite learning curve. Button mashers need not apply.
BucketofJustice
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5-Jan-2023(#48)
There's a heck of a learning curve with the strikes in particular, mostly due to its isometric viewpoint. It's still really good, but it'll take a bit to get there.

Vince coming back to sell it... I don't know. I can see him saying now that he's back in power, he doesn't need to sell it and he can make it the best it could ever be. He has shown that while he can be a good businessman, he can also be inept. Look at the DirecTV thing from a ways back, or how it came out that the last time TV rights came up that he got more money when he was removed from the negotiations. I can also see the FCC or SEC or whoever it was investigating the accusations last summer getting back up in their ass about everything. I guess we'll see what happens.
theJaw
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5-Jan-2023(#49)
I have no faith in Vince McMahon in WWE and it’s ridiculous that he’s coming back.

What exactly are the details there? He’s straight up selling WWE? To who? What happens after the sale?
PizzaTheHutt
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5-Jan-2023(#50)
What I recall reading a few weeks ago, I think the intended plan is for NBC to end up eventually buying the company, but were waiting for Fox's deal with SmackDown to end in 2 more years so NBC can snatch it up and be home to all WWE programming.

From this tweet I just read it says "Vince said unless he has direct involvement as executive chairman of a strategic review, he won’t approve a sale or any media-rights deals"
BucketofJustice
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* 5-Jan-2023(#51)
Would his stock allow him to veto that kind of thing? I know he's majority owner and all, but would he have to approve since he doesn't "hold any power" in the current power structure?

There's way more questions than answers. This is just starting. This could really suck.

Edit: well nevermind me. He's already back on the board. I didn't think it would be that quick. Still, way more questions than answers.
PizzaTheHutt
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6-Jan-2023(#52)
Kinda weird that the company's stock dropped when the original rumor of Vince wanting to come back started making the rounds, but it went up 16% today now that he actually is back.

theJaw
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6-Jan-2023(#53)
Real weird, considering the dude is out of his mind.
beavis
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7-Jan-2023(#54)
Ehh the market is fickle. Going down is a good time to buy, especially with talks of a sale that could increase revenue. Although with Vince in on it I’m sure it will be a cluster fudge. People think he is a great businessman, but he hasn’t really made great decisions since 05. The pandemic was a very good event for him, basically WWE was the only sports on tv and he was getting a lot of eyes on the product. But that was just situational.
PizzaTheHutt
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10-Jan-2023(#56)
This totally needs to happen someday.
https://twitter.com/AndrewZarian/status/1612971271...

BucketofJustice
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10-Jan-2023(#57)
Haha but not RF Video. Fudge RF Video and fudge Rob Feinstein.
theJaw
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* 10-Jan-2023(#58)
Yah fudge RF, ROH’s best decision was to separate from that creep.

Anyhow, Vince is back in charge. Think I’m done with WWE.
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theJaw
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* 10-Jan-2023(#59)
McMahon apparently literally just sold WWE to Saudi Arabia. RIP WWE.
BucketofJustice
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11-Jan-2023(#60)
I hope that's not true.
shadyfozzie
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11-Jan-2023(#61)
BucketofJustice wrote:
> I hope that's not true.

https://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/1260108-vince-m...
BucketofJustice
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* 11-Jan-2023(#62)
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1613173749...

It's still most likely an ongoing thing.
theJaw
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11-Jan-2023(#63)
Yeah, it's just a report for now, but it seems like several legit sources believe it. But who knows? Fingers crossed that crap doesn't happen.
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14-Jan-2023(#64)
I know I'm not big into wrestling anymore myself, but i figured I'd let you guys know that a buddy of mine from High School I hung around with is now getting paid to present wrestling related articles and he's done a fair amount of interviews with professional and independants alike. Give him a look or maybe you've heard of him. His name is Bob Colling and he runs https://wrestlingrecaps.com/

BucketofJustice
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17-Jan-2023(#65)
RIP Jay Briscoe.

This sucks.
shadyfozzie
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17-Jan-2023(#66)
Looks like a car accident in Maryland. Totally sucks
theJaw
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17-Jan-2023(#67)
100% cried. That fudging sucks so bad.
BucketofJustice
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19-Jan-2023(#68)
This still sucks. I cried some. Kind of emotional right now to be frank. I can’t explain why.

I’ve thought about Jay a lot for the past couple of days. Cool story… I met Jay and Mark in 2004. I went to the RoH show where AJ Styles became the Pure Wrestling champion. The Briscoes wrestled the Backseat Boyz for the RoH Tag Team titles. It was great! I met them after the show when they were leaving. It was just a quick deal but they were cool. I was grinning ear to ear.

I remember more about that trip now. It’s not important now. Jay Briscoe is important now.

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theJaw
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* 20-Jan-2023(#69)
Yah I've been pretty much nonstop thinking about him and his family. Never got to meet him, but I was lucky enough to get to see him wrestle live five times.

Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Kevin Steen & Steve Corino (ROH Tag Title Classic II - 2010)
Jay Briscoe vs. Roderick Strong vs. El Generico vs. Homicide (ROH Defy or Deny - 2011)
Jay & Mark Briscoe & Bully Ray vs. Dalton Castle & The Boys (ROH Best in the World - 2017)
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Jushin Thunder Liger & Flip Gordon (ROH/NJPW War of the Worlds Night 1 - 2018)
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. FTR (ROH Death Before Dishonor - 2022)

Jay put his all into each of those matches (and really any match he was in), even when they weren't the marquee match of the night. I still can't believe I saw the dude face Jushin Liger, that's so surreal to me. I mean the match was just a low card match with no real story but still, how wild. And of course seeing the second match in the immediately-legendary trilogy vs. FTR will always stick with me. I'm happy that I got to experience that, probably the best match I've ever seen live (if not one of the best I've ever seen, period). Guy could work with legit anybody and get the most out of them.

Gonna miss him a lot, and miss The Briscoes as a tag team in general. Feel awful for Mark and the rest of his family.

Here's one of my favorite Jay Briscoe matches, coincidentally vs. Mark Briscoe at ROH Fifth Year Festival: Finale. Just about the only match I can think about that deserved the finish it got. Hearing the small smattering of disappointment transform to thunderous praise within seconds is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28--GlSE9SA
theJaw
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24-Jan-2023(#70)
Mark Briscoe vs. Jay Lethal signed for AEW Dynamite tomorrow. LET'S FUDGING GOOO.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 24-Jan-2023(#71)
Weird, Meltzer had just said earlier today that the network didn't want Mark Briscoe on TV.
Glad they changed their mind and saw it was unfair to keep him off of TV for comments he didn't make. I'll be tuning in for that match for sure.
theJaw
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24-Jan-2023(#72)
Yah Meltzer is infamous for being right and wrong in equal parts haha. But it is possible Tony Khan just got the network to get the frig over it and change their minds. No reason Mark shouldn't be allowed to wrestle regardless.
BucketofJustice
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24-Jan-2023(#73)
About time WBD weren’t being butt-holes about it. Jay said something really, excessively dumb. He owned it, apologized, and by all accounts became better for it. That’s all anyone should be asked to do, and it shouldn’t have been held against him like it was ever since. I don’t know if I’ll be able to watch, but I’m super happy that it’s happening.
shadyfozzie
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24-Jan-2023(#74)
Raw XXX was terrible last night.
BucketofJustice
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24-Jan-2023(#75)
I’m sorry you feel that way. I felt pretty opposite, aside from the cage match jankiness.
theJaw
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24-Jan-2023(#76)
It was a fine show. Some fun stuff. Some terrible crap. Was glad Imperium didn't get the Revival treatment and get beat down by elderly-DX, but also wish they won that 6 man match. The cage match stuff was fudging stupid, no excuses there. Bray Wyatt is not hitting at all the way I hoped he would have. Otherwise it was a normal Triple H-booked Raw - not much substance, not much to re-watch, but fun enough to pass time.
PizzaTheHutt
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* 24-Jan-2023(#77)
Kinda bored of DX using that "we're old" shtick again after just using it a few months ago.
I wonder why Hornswoggle isn't around for these little DX reuinions? That was by far the worst version of DX, but fans who are young adults now were kids/teens during that era and that's probably the version of DX they'd have nostalgia for.

theJaw
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24-Jan-2023(#78)
lol (horn)Swoggle is a little sarcastic crap and I love him. He shows up on the Major Wrestling Figure Podcast shows with Matt Cardona and Brian Myers a lot. I'm sure he'd show up if WWE asked, but he also seems like he couldn't give less of a crap nowadays haha
theJaw
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25-Jan-2023(#79)
Welp, that main event was about as sad as I expected it to be. Great showing by Mark Briscoe, can't imagine how hard it was to go out there tonight. Kudos to him and AEW, that was classy.
BucketofJustice
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26-Jan-2023(#80)
I just got Sling TV back and I had to DVR Dynamite since I wasn’t home. I watched one of the Jay Briscoe videos on YouTube and I was emotional, I’ll admit. Without spoilers, is it a good tribute show? Did they do right by Jay this week?
theJaw
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* 26-Jan-2023(#81)
BucketofJustice wrote:
> I just got Sling TV back and I had to DVR Dynamite since I wasn’t home. I watched
> one of the Jay Briscoe videos on YouTube and I was emotional, I’ll admit. Without
> spoilers, is it a good tribute show? Did they do right by Jay this week?

It wasn't a full tribute show tbh, most of it was just Dynamite. But boy did Mark Briscoe deliver in that main event. It was 100% a great tribute to Jay, and the ending of the episode itself got me weeping. It was so cathartic to see Mark do his thing in there, I appreciate the hell out of that. Great match too, for what it's worth.

It looks like the (free) ROH Jay Briscoe Celebration of Life show that they filmed after Dynamite last week has been released. This was a last second show that they put together on the fly a literal day after Jay passed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iS93bbBtLU

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