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Heavyd814life
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* 4-Jan-2023(#1)
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The 2023 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

Gold Star Shane12m Current Total: 893


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Starfield - 83
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Resident Evil 4 - 93
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


Silver Star Best1989 Current Total: 887


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Pikmin 4 - 87
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


Bronze Star Heavyd814life Current Total: 883


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Forza Motorsport - 85
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Street Fighter 6 - 92
9. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 81
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


4. PizzaTheHutt Current Total: 880


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
5. Kerbal Space Program 2
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Skull and Bones


5. Boss Current Total: 878


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Lies of P - 80
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Starfield - 83
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hollow Knight: Silksong
2. Hogwarts Legacy - 84


6. Mattyg00013 Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Forza Motorsport - 85
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
2. Pikmin 4 - 87


6. Scott Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars - 88
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85


6. Thatfootballguy Current Total: 876


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Glitched
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


7. Bleed_DukeBlue Current Total: 872


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81


7. Sefjwm Current Total: 872


Top 10:
1. Animal Well
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Sea of Stars - 88
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


8. Frank Current Total: 869


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Forza Motorsport - 85
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Resident Evil 4 - 93
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Unannounced Mario Movie Tie-In

Alternates:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Theatrhythm Final Bar - 87


9. Bonham2 Current Total: 867


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League


10. TalonJedi87 Current Total: 863


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon - 86
2. Starfield - 83


11. Tonymack21 Current Total: 861


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
5. Like A Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name - 78
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Pikmin 4 - 87
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96


12. EB Current Total: 857


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Forza Motorsport - 85
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85


13. Roko Current Total: 853


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
4. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Rise of the Ronin
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. Tekken 8
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Pikmin 4 - 87
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


14. Lunar Current Total: 844


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse - 68
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
6. Octopath Traveler II - 84
7. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure - 81
8. The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie - 81
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 73
2. Wild Hearts - 79


15. Sailorneorune Current Total: 841


Top 10:
1. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
2. Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon - 81
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 79
6. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
7. Master Detective Archives: Rain Code - 77
8. Street Fighter 6 - 92
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Sea of Stars - 88
2. WrestleQuest - 69


16. Ryan Current Total: 840


Top 10:
1. Dead Space - 89
2. Forza Motorsport - 85
3. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
4. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
5. Octopath Traveler II - 84
6. Redfall - 56
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Street Fighter 6 - 92
2. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81


17. BloodPuppetX Current Total: 839


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key - 81
3. Dead Island 2 - 73
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
6. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
7. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. ONI: Road to the Mightiest Oni - 73
2. Process of Elimination - 70


18. SilverOwl Current Total: 833


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Forspoken - 64
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
9. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
10. Starfield - 83

Alternates:
1. Dead Island 2 - 73
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


19. Archer Current Total: 827


Top 10:
1. Atomic Heart - 70
2. Dead Island 2 - 73
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Starfield - 83
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty - 81

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
2. Oxenfree II: Lost Signals - 73


20. 3hitcombo Current Total: 821


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Hades II
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - 79
5. Pikmin 4 - 87
6. Redfall - 56
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Starfield - 83
9. Street Fighter 6 - 92
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Fitness Boxing Fist of the North Star - 65
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


21. Cevil Current Total: 813


Top 10:
1. Clive 'N' Wrench - 52
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
6. Mina the Hollower
7. Resident Evil 4 - 93
8. Sea of Stars - 88
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Forspoken - 64
2. Octopath Traveler II - 84


22. Incubus421 Current Total: 786


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Octopath Traveler II - 84
8. Pikmin 4 - 87
9. Resident Evil 4 - 93
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Starfield - 83


23. HybridCRoW Current Total: 779


Top 10:
1. A Space for the Unbound - 85
2. Atomic Heart - 70
3. Dead Space - 89
4. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
5. Forspoken - 64
6. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
7. Like a Dragon: Ishin! - 81
8. Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened - 75
9. Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life - 72
10. Wild Hearts - 79

Alternates:
1. One Piece Odyssey - 73
2. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70


24. Jbjz Current Total: 766


Top 10:
1. Alan Wake II - 87
2. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
3. Diablo IV - 86
4. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
5. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. SpongeBob SquarePants: The Cosmic Shake - 70
10. Street Fighter 6 - 92

Alternates:
1. Palworld
2. Paper Ghost Stories: Third Eye Open


25. Bogo Current Total: 759


Top 10:
1. Assassin's Creed Mirage - 77
2. Diablo IV - 86
3. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
7. Metroid Prime 4
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Wolf Among Us 2

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Starfield - 83


26. SupremeSarna Current Total: 731


Top 10:
1. Diablo IV - 86
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
3. Final Fantasy XVI - 87
4. Hogwarts Legacy - 84
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Pikmin 4 - 87
7. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor - 85
8. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
9. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96
10. The Lord of the Rings: Gollum - 34

Alternates:
1. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
2. Street Fighter 6 - 92


27. Demonalcohol Current Total: 720


Top 10:
1. Baldur's Gate 3 - 96
2. Dead Space - 89
3. Death Stranding 2
4. Diablo IV - 86
5. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
6. Hades II
7. Hollow Knight: Silksong
8. Resident Evil 4 - 93
9. Starfield - 83
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
2. Pikmin 4 - 87


28. SwiftJAB Current Total: 664


Top 10:
1. Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp - 82
2. Fire Emblem Engage - 80
3. Forspoken - 64
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Horizon Call of the Mountain - 79
6. Kerbal Space Program 2
7. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - 90
8. Octopath Traveler II - 84
9. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
10. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 96

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
2. Dead Space - 89


29. Metsfan718 Current Total: 466


Top 10:
1. Call of Duty: Warzone Mobile
2. Crash Team Rumble - 67
3. Disney Illusion Island - 73
4. MrWang And Love
5. Peppa Pig: World Adventures - 72
6. Romancelvania - 64
7. Star Trek: Resurgence - 71
8. T-Rex Dinosaur Game
9. The Last Case of Benedict Fox - 58
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Daydream: Forgotten Sorrow - 61
2. Hollow Knight: Silksong


30. benstylus Current Total: 75


Top 10:
1. 2D Metroid Remake
2. Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver Remake
3. New Civilization Game
4. New Hyrule Warriors Game
5. New Lego Game Based on a Comic Book/Graphic Novel IP
6. New Rayman game
7. New Shantae game
8. New Tetris game
9. New Thunder Lotus Game (Creators of Spiritfarer)
10. WarioWare: Move It! - 75

Alternates:
1. New ARMS Game
2. New EA Sports Racing Game (Not F1 or WRC)



Upcoming Releases:




League Overview:


Welcome to Year 6 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League! This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The Metacritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2024. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like Armored Core VI and it gets pushed into 2024, one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2023. Don't YOLO your way into a bunch of 0s lol.

The Rules:
1. No DLC or Expansions
2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed)
3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2024. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.

The Prizes:
1st Place: A $50 Amazon Gift Card
2nd Place: A $20 Amazon Gift Card
3rd Place: A $10 Amazon Gift Card

The Participants:
1. Heavyd814life
2. DemonAlcohol
3. PizzaTheHutt
4. EB
5. TalonJedi87
6. benstylus
7. Sailorneorune
8. Bleed_DukeBlue
9. HybridCRoW
10. Incubus421
11. SwiftJAB
12. Roko
13. Thatfootballguy
14. SilverOwl
15. Shane12m
16. Frank
17. SupremeSarna
18. Cevil
19. BloodPuppetX
20. Sefjwm
21. Ryan
22. Bogo
23. Boss
24. Archer
25. Scott
26. Lunar
27. Tonymack21
28. Mattyg00013
29. Bonham2
30. Metsfan718
31. Best1989
32. 3hitcombo
33. Jbjz


Previous Winners:
2022: Heavyd814life
2021: Ryan
2020: Mattyg00013 and Roko
2019: Heavyd814life
2018: Heavyd814life

Submit Your Picks Here: https://tally.so/r/mKpOyK
Deadline: January 18, 2023 at 11:59pm




Boss
GameTZ Gold Subscriber Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (8)
16-Oct-2023(#281)
Game Over @bonham2
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
* 16-Oct-2023(#282)
Ooh I may crack top 10, maybe even 5. Though likely not 5 due to everyone's alternates slotting into place.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 16-Oct-2023(#283)
Even though I finished #15 I’m happy that all but one game I picked, Atomic Heart, got in the mid 80’s and low 90’s. I enjoy playing each year. Thanks @Heavyd814life for coordinating and doing this annually! I’m gonna start working on my 2024 list soon since my selections for 2023 have just ran out with Spiderman 2.
bonham2
600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
16-Oct-2023(#284)
Boss wrote:
> Game Over @bonham2

Not if Hollow Knight Silk Song magically comes out in the next two months and gets better than a 96.
Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
16-Oct-2023(#285)
No matter how this turns out, I'm pretty happy, since I finished second to last last year! The one big hit I took was on Horizon: Call of the Mountain, which was definitely a heart over head choice. I don't regret it, though, as I still think that game is underrated.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
16-Oct-2023(#286)
I also had Call of the Mountain and I feel like it's perfectly rated. High 70 is a good-great game still and it definitely didn't quite live up to what I was hoping for while still being a lot of fun.
PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews
16-Oct-2023(#287)
I chose Call of the Mountain too. I thought it would get a lot of high scores based on the "omg this is so cool" factor of the new features PSVR2 offers that other VR headsets don't. But it didn't score as high as I had hoped. No PSVR2 launch games did for that matter, kinda why I haven't bought one yet.

Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
16-Oct-2023(#288)
The biggest criticism I heard was that it was a climbing simulator, but climbing is one of my favorite things in VR, so I really enjoyed it.

sefjwm wrote:
> I also had Call of the Mountain and I feel like it's perfectly rated. High 70 is
> a good-great game still and it definitely didn't quite live up to what I was hoping
> for while still being a lot of fun.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
17-Oct-2023(#289)
I don't mind climbing and archery but I was hoping there would be more to it. The game was beautiful though and I put my parents through safari mode and they were impressed. This reminds me I need to go back and plat it still as well as play all the other vr2 games I bought.
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
18-Oct-2023(#290)
Wow Mario Wonder at 95 with 39 reviews. Twice now they have followed Zelda up with a GOTY contender Mario game.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 18-Oct-2023(#291)
Damn. Did anyone have it on their list? Probably not since it was just kinda announced late in 2023, but if someone said pending New Super Mario side scrolling title. Good for them.
Scott
GameTZ Subscriber Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
18-Oct-2023(#292)
I strongly considered putting "new 2D Mario" on my list, but decided to play it safe after taking so many risks the last 2 years and then doing so poorly because of it lol. I'm so glad to hear that Mario Wonder is doing so well though!
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
19-Oct-2023(#293)
Yeah, I don't think anyone knew it was coming xD
bonham2
600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
19-Oct-2023(#294)
Scott wrote:
> I strongly considered putting "new 2D Mario" on my list, but decided to play it safe
> after taking so many risks the last 2 years and then doing so poorly because of it
> lol. I'm so glad to hear that Mario Wonder is doing so well though!

I did too. I had it but deleted it to play it safe.
Kommie
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
19-Oct-2023(#295)
Scott wrote:
> I strongly considered putting "new 2D Mario" on my list, but decided to play it safe
> after taking so many risks the last 2 years and then doing so poorly because of it
> lol. I'm so glad to hear that Mario Wonder is doing so well though!

Well since it's a 3d side scroller and not 2d, that would have not given you any points.
HybridCRoW
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
21-Oct-2023(#296)
I got a mix of Super Nintendo Mario and Lost Levels vibes when I saw the "commercial" for Super Mario Wonder. I definitely have to get it when I am able to.
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
* 26-Oct-2023(#297)
Alan Wake 2 currently at 90 with 21 reviews on ps5. All 90-100 except one 60 outlier so far

Pc at 96 with only 12 reviews but none below 90
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 26-Oct-2023(#298)
Nice! Can’t wait to play it! Did anyone have Alan Wake 2 on their lists? I know it was a late entry. I wish I did.
PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews
26-Oct-2023(#299)
I have Alan Wake 2 as an alternate pick and I'll end up using it since Kerbal Space Program 2 didn't release this year (it's still in early access).

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
* 27-Oct-2023(#300)
OP updated with scores for Alan Wake II. It's currently at 88 on Metacritic from 39 reviews.

So happy for Remedy. Hopefully the positive reviews translate to good sales for them. Shame it's digital only, though. I likely won't get around to picking it up til it's like sub $20.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/alan-wake-ii/

PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews
27-Oct-2023(#301)
Why are there so few reviews for the Xbox version of Alan Wake II? There's only 4 compared to 28 on PC and 39 on PS5.

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
27-Oct-2023(#302)
I don’t think many critics review games on Xbox consoles. I’ve noticed this going back to the XB1 days. It’s either PC or a PlayStation console they typically favor for some reason. Maybe review copies are easier to get on PC/PS than Xbox
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
27-Oct-2023(#303)
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> Why are there so few reviews for the Xbox version of Alan Wake II? There's only 4
> compared to 28 on PC and 39 on PS5.
>
>

What ever the most popular console is for that gen is where the reviews go. Same I guess for dev time to polish a game in my experience. If you go back to the 360/ps3 days most all reviews were for the 360 version. Then PS4 and 5 have taken over that due to them being the leader between the two.

And honestly, as someone who owns both. Most games run like crap on the SX compared to the PS5. I've spent most of my gaming time this year on the SX, and in my experience all the games were sub par compared to the PS5 versions in terms of performance and visuals. So much so that I ended up refunding 3 games on the SX and re-buying them on PS5 because of it. Devs just are not giving that console a fair shake it seems. Unless its just a pita to dev for, I have no idea on that front. Its crazy to me how one version of the game can be so bad compared to the other.
Kommie
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
27-Oct-2023(#304)
Archer wrote:
> PizzaTheHutt wrote:
>> Why are there so few reviews for the Xbox version of Alan Wake II? There's only
> 4
>> compared to 28 on PC and 39 on PS5.
>>
>>
>
> What ever the most popular console is for that gen is where the reviews go. Same
> I guess for dev time to polish a game in my experience. If you go back to the 360/ps3
> days most all reviews were for the 360 version. Then PS4 and 5 have taken over that
> due to them being the leader between the two.
>
> And honestly, as someone who owns both. Most games run like crap on the SX compared
> to the PS5. I've spent most of my gaming time this year on the SX, and in my experience
> all the games were sub par compared to the PS5 versions in terms of performance and
> visuals. So much so that I ended up refunding 3 games on the SX and re-buying them
> on PS5 because of it. Devs just are not giving that console a fair shake it seems.
> Unless its just a pita to dev for, I have no idea on that front. Its crazy to me
> how one version of the game can be so bad compared to the other.

could be due to the XsS and XsX having to work just as well despite different hardware
Archer
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27-Oct-2023(#305)
Yeah, that is probably what it is actually. Not sure how I didn't think of that.
PizzaTheHutt
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27-Oct-2023(#306)
I thought most sites just do 1 review and apply it to both versions, but I actually prefer reviewing each individually.

One review of the Xbox version by "ButWhyTho.net" (who I never heard of before) was only reviewed on Xbox because she had too many technical issues trying to get the game running on her PC, so had to settle for the Xbox version. But even on Xbox she had some issues, like the game crashing 3 times and audio dropping out when she'd skip a cutscene and she'd have to restart the game to get it back again. Her review isn't finished yet, I assume because she got the code a bit late after not being able to finish it on PC.
Archer
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31-Oct(#307)
Just saw a thing saying that this year has the most games that have scored over a 90 average in over 20 years. With 25 games this year having over a 90. I didn't realize 25 games had scored that high this year. A lot of us really missed out on having even crazier scores in here, lol.

bogo
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31-Oct(#308)
according to overall Metacritic score, there's 24 'things' that are rated 90+, but a few aren't valid for our little game here. I think 17 of those actually count; still a good amount. highest possible score is 924 with:
-TotK
-baldurs gate 3
-RE4
-Cocoon
-SMB Wonder
-Street fighter 6
-Turbo Overkill
-Diablo 4
-Sea of Stars
-any of the eight 90 score games

Best is pretty dang close!
Archer
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31-Oct(#309)
Yeah, but my point is there could have been a lot more users with over 850 points this year.
sefjwm
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31-Oct(#310)
What? Nobody had Turbo Overkill in their lists?
PizzaTheHutt
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31-Oct(#311)
I don't remember if I'd ever heard of it before just seeing it listed in that post, but I just checked a trailer for it and it's in my wishlist now.

sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
31-Oct(#312)
Yeah, it looks pretty cool. Another game getting good reviews I had never heard of until today https://www.metacritic.com/game/little-goody-two-s...
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
31-Oct(#313)
bogo wrote:
> according to overall Metacritic score, there's 24 'things' that are rated 90+, but
> a few aren't valid for our little game here. I think 17 of those actually count;
> still a good amount. highest possible score is 924 with:
> -TotK
> -baldurs gate 3
> -RE4
> -Cocoon
> -SMB Wonder
> -Street fighter 6
> -Turbo Overkill
> -Diablo 4
> -Sea of Stars
> -any of the eight 90 score games
>
> Best is pretty dang close!

How many of those 90 score games have less than 20 reviews? I feel like Turbo Overkill getting a 90 with 11 reviews would have been really cheap to count towards compared to a game with 90+ reviews. It is sooo easy to score really high (or low) with very few reviews. Maybe a minimum of 20 (30? 40?) reviews or something needs to be in place
Heavyd814life
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31-Oct(#314)
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