benstylus
9-Sep-2023(#241)sefjwm wrote:> They allegedly held back review codes from more negative outlets so it was expected
> to drop a bit.
This is part of why nobody really trusts reviews anymore. When publishers are free to give or withhold copies so that only their preferred outlets have the game in time to review prior to release, that's a problem. Early reviews equal website views equal ad revenues so the review sites are incentivized to keep the publishers happy even if it is to the detriment of consumers.
Note I'm not saying that every highly rated game that was released this year just has inflated review scores, but why aren't review sites fully independent? The video game industry in the US had $97.67 billion in revenue in 2022 (an all time high) which makes it bigger than the movie industry ($27.3b), the music industry ($15.9b) and the book industry ($28b) combined.
Why aren't game review sites fully independent?
sefjwm
* 9-Sep-2023(#243)The confirmed outlets were Eurogamer, Edge, Metro, Kotaku, and The Guardian and those are just the ones that spoke publicly. As more late reviews come in it's likely that's also because those places didn't get codes. It was a little odd since Bethesda gave out way more codes than they normally do and earlier than they normally do. They also gave codes to lots of smaller sites, streamers, and fans. I wasn't saying if it's right or wrong what happened, just why we are probably going to see more score movement than normal for Starfield.
Regardless, nobody should just go off number scores alone. Read multiple reviews from varied outlets. Do they like things you like? Dislike things you dislike? Make your own judgement based on the content of the reviews form both high and low reviews. And remember a 7 at almost every outlet is considered a good game.
benstylus
9-Sep-2023(#244)Archer wrote:> This is also why youtube is now full of garbage video game content as well. Its nothing
> but click bait and rage bait content. And every channel has the same exact videos
> about the same exact games. Because they all want a share of the ad revenue. I can't
> stand youtube video game content now days.
Maybe we should start a thread on worthwhile YouTube VG content. Because behind all the crapface clickbait thumbnails, there are some great channels out their doing great work.
sefjwm
* 11-Sep-2023(#245)Honestly, I still watch/read a lot of the mainstream reviews still (IGN, KFG, DF, Gamespot, etc) I also watch youtube groups like Escapist, Jimquisition, and PSVR Without Parole. Heck, I still read Kotaku reviews. I may not always agree, and sometimes rarely agree, with some of the reviews but it provides a good idea of what the game offers and then I make my decisions based on that.
Having a good circle of friends that game also helps. Word of mouth from friends is also huge in my choices.
Bleed_DukeBlue
13-Sep-2023(#246)I don't remember anyone having it on their list, but I feel like Lies of P has come up in discussion some. I'm surprised at how good the reviews are for it (low 80s).
Kommie
13-Sep-2023(#247)A lot do people I think were expecting it to be very high... It's higher than I expected it. High 70's was my guess. Demo sad pretty meh.
Shane12m
13-Sep-2023(#249)Archer wrote:> I don't really like that new site they have.
Yeah the new layout is terrible
Shane12m
13-Sep-2023(#250)Lies of P looking like a great game. 82 and could go higher still. May have to check it out at some point. Wasn’t a huge fan of bloodbourne myself but love the souls series
Shane12m
14-Sep-2023(#253)Starfield at 83 now.. yikes
Kommie
14-Sep-2023(#254)83 is still good???? Bethesda haven't made anything new in.... forever. It's the same game. Instead of making the same game every year like Call of Duty, somehow it takes them 8 or so years to make the same all over again.
Shane12m
14-Sep-2023(#256)Kommie wrote:> 83 is still good???? Bethesda haven't made anything new in.... forever. It's the
> same game. Instead of making the same game every year like Call of Duty, somehow
> it takes them 8 or so years to make the same all over again.
I just meant yikes in regards to the scores of the league in this thread lol
Shane12m
14-Sep-2023(#257)Boss wrote:> GG @Best1989 with Lies of P out I'm not going to be able to pass you.
Yeah I was hoping it would score higher so you would have a chance for a close finish but it looks like it’s gonna be a close finish with Spider man and Forza. Alan wake 2 could also be a surprise that jumps someone up a bit
benstylus
15-Sep-2023(#260)TalonJedi87 wrote:> Anyone have Mortal Kombat 1? I know it was a late entry that kinda popped up after
> we placed our bets, but it’s currently sitting at an 85 on MC with 18 PC reviews.
> I guess they just started trickling in.
I had an ad for it pop up when I was watching a YouTube video... it brought back the "MORTAL KOMBAT!" shout and had hints of the legendary song.
Best1989
18-Sep-2023(#262)Nice! Something really crazy would need to happen for that game to not get more than 85, I think. I wonder why I didn't add it to my list.
Heavyd814life
18-Sep-2023(#263)Best1989 wrote:> Nice! Something really crazy would need to happen for that game to not get more than
> 85, I think. I wonder why I didn't add it to my list.
Yeah, I regret not having it on my list either. I just wasn't sure it'd make it out this year, but Insomniac churn out games like crazy so I shouldn't have doubted them.
sefjwm
19-Sep-2023(#264)Having 2 games delayed going to win it this year heh
Shane12m
19-Sep-2023(#265)sefjwm wrote:> Having 2 games delayed going to win it this year heh
That’s why alternates matter
sefjwm
19-Sep-2023(#266)And beastly alternates they were :)
Shane12m
* 4-Oct-2023(#267)Forza currently at 84 with 60 reviews. That’s a good score but I was expecting higher tbh
I wonder how it will run on steam deck.
Heavyd814life
4-Oct-2023(#268)Shane12m wrote:> Forza currently at 84 with 60 reviews. That’s a good score but I was expecting
> higher tbh
> I wonder how it will run on steam deck.
Dude same! Really thought I had a chance to catch @Best1989 but looks like I'm going to finish behind both you guys. Hopefully I'm able to hold on to 3rd place.
OP updated with scores for
Forza Motorsport and
Assassin's Creed Mirage. They are currently sitting at 84 and 77 respectively on Metacritic.
Best1989
4-Oct-2023(#270)Yeah, I was expecting Forza to be around 88.
I never play Assassin's Creed games on launch anyway, so Mirage's score is fine for me.
SupremeSarna
4-Oct-2023(#273)Like @Scott , I'll also take one of my backups in place of Silksong. May I choose my second backup, Street Fighter 6? Or do I have to go with FE Engage first, since I listed it as #1?
Kommie
4-Oct-2023(#274)Silksong is basically like the Cuphead DLC at this point. It's coming out but no one knows when. Cuphead DLC did eventually come out....
sefjwm
4-Oct-2023(#275)I just need Spiderman to score 107+ and I've got this
Shane12m
* 16-Oct-2023(#278)Spider man 2 at 91 with 63 reviews