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hardcore can be random and there really is no way to super OP. Just be careful and use the death avoid potions.

Sweet.

Just seen the Uber Lilith achievement yikes At first I though that was only in Hardcore mode but apparently you can fight her in "normal mode"

Yeah, she is the end boss of the third capstone dungeon in worst (world) tier 4. She is level 100. You need to be at least level 90 before attempting that fight. I tried at level 65, was not a good time.

Yes. Uber Lilith is worst currently. Gotta be nerfed.

Feeb wrote:

What do you mean by random? I haven't started my hardcore character yet. Wanted to get a regular to 100 first.

Feeb wrote:

On my way to my Diablo 3 plat, Hardcore mode made me want to toss the controller a few times... My first one died at lvl 34 and that did not bother me but I had another that died at lvl 55 and I was just sitting there looking at the screen in disbelief! But it was my Warrior at lvl 68 that really got me. I got hit with a HUGE lag spike and when everything caught up I was dead. I don't think I touched the game for 3 days... started up again after I was reading the Paladin was the way to go, I did and it was pretty smooth sailing and was shocked how easy it was... I then kicked myself for not doing the research first.

How big can your party be in D4? We should play sometime... I probably have a little catching up to do though. I maybe able to get an hour or 2 in tonight depends on how fast my courses go.. I put it off for awhile I have to the end of the month to get them done... I had a year, got 2 done and hammered out 3 yesterday... so I have 12 more to get done by next Wednesday.

Archer wrote:

The biggest factor is which elites you roll- random. For instance- over all of my toons on D4 I got very unlucky and walked into a skeletal wall with the crossbows and an elite inside at around level 12 on rogue. 95% of folks likely done there- not too far but that has been happening with my 30 HC Sorc as well. I also saw a few HC deaths at 30 or for players around / grouped with Oops.

Man, I am having a hard time with my build, too many amazing options!

I recently got a 2h staff that gives 70% bonus damage to immobilized/stunned/frozen. It's insane how quickly I can take down mobs when stunned from my build (big focus on crackling energy/crits/stun) - elites die in 2-3 chain lights. I decided to add in Frost Nova (both as an enchant + skill), and it's pretty fantastic! The bonus damage for one, but also adding vulnerability on top of it.

Problem is, I have to give up a skill. That and I definitely prefer 1h/oh for speed and additional stats/proc's. Still, after comparing both for quite a bit of time, the 2h with the stun/frozen buff is just ... insane, nothing else drpos mobs as fast.

So giving up the skill problem, as of now, I dropped Ice Armor:

- Frost Nova
- Chain Light
- Unstable Currents
- Teleport
- Spark
- Chain Lightning

Thankfully, I have a couple different bubbles that pop with gear, but man, I miss Ice Armor for longer boss fights (haven't yet died though). So far so good, but I don't see a better path forward. Only other option might be to drop teleport instead, which feels insane as that's bread and butter!

Overall, this build feels insanely OP'd. I don't see any better alternative for now to take advantage of stun and frozen.

Just took down Ashava without getting hit, so maybe I really don't need Ice armor, hrm. I'm assuming this will all change as I get higher up ... currently L51.

I finally got a chance to play the last couple of nights, and I’m loving it so far. Right now, I have a Sorceress running a chain lightning/glass cannon build that is risky but fun and a Druid hardcore character with a storm wolf build.

@MrBean are you still on WT2? or have you gone on to WT3?

Archer wrote:

WT2, I'm assuming I open WT3 soon? I think I'm nearing the end ... I haven't looked at what ya need to do to open WT3.

If you’re surviving and they’re dying your build is fine. Until max level I don’t worry about min / max. Even then I don’t care too much unless I’m watching a DPS meter- which is something wrongly focused noobs do.

MrBean wrote:

You have to finish the story and then beat the capstone dungeon that opens up once that is done.

What is the Best Druid build.. I think I am leaning towards being a bear...

Coming back to an ice-shard sorc at level 69 has been so much fun. I stopped using ice and went mostly lightening from like level 13 or 14. And now that I've gotten all this really good ice gear and going back to it feels so good. Its so powerful and so much fun to play. Its nice to change up the play style. Doing the same thing for the rest of the game would have burned me out on the character and I would never made it to 100. Not that I'm there yet. But also can't wait to get there and start a hc druid or necro

Only L53, but my Light/Cold sorc has legit been melting face ... A co-worker told me about the Ice Shards build that's supposedly best in the game. Re-rolled about a half hour ago, it's pretty fantastic, but I don't think I yet have the proper gear (CDR, MCR, RG) to reduce downtime. I'm flying through my mana and waiting for my CD's. My prior build, had very little downtime.

https://maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/ice-shards-sorc...

Still, I'm kinda digging it, just ... need better gear. I finally just said screw it and dusted like 50 legs that have been taking up space and didn't think I need the asepects on (I'm sure I'll regret it).

Finally got my first epic pieces yesterday. When the heck does Act 1 end lol I only got to play for about an hour off and on.. power kept going out, we had some pretty awesome lightning last night. I am past the Black River, killed one "boss"... I got to be near the end...


*did some reading and I think I need to stop thinking this game is like past diablo games with distinct acts.

Finn wrote:

It has distinct acts, and you will know when you complete one. There are 6 acts and a prologue. And the story is very long compared to past games. It takes like 30+ hours.

Oh ok, dang then I wonder when I wil, get out of this act lol

Finn wrote:

The strange thing is, when you first get to Kyovashad it gives you the first quest for Act 1, 2 and 3. The three story quest it gives you. And you can do them in any order I guess, but the ones for act 2 and 3 are a bit higher level. So if you do them out of order I'm not sure how it handles it. If you open your quest log on the map screen it will tell you what act the story quests belong to.

And after you finish an act you get a small cut sense with a voice over from one of the characters.

Well, I'm officially addicted. Gdamnit. I'm sure I'll burn out soon but purposely overdoing it before FFXVI. Man I want some better gear to support end game builds.

What's best way to grind to 70 for WT4? I'm just OCD all over the place doing everything as I collect lilith statues and redo my build constantly. Only at 56... Need to focus on leveling.

I'm assuming T1/T2 dungeons? I've only got 3 drops so far. Is there a better way to farm these to just keep popping nightmare dungeons?

I'd recommend NM dungeons. 25% more xp as the enemies will be 3+ levels higher than you. Plus you can pop an elixir for another 5%.

But if you really just want to speed it and not enjoying playing the game. Find a group and run dungeons that ways. You get another 10% xp for being in a group. And a group can clear a dungeon in under 45 seconds with splitting up. That doesn't sound fun to me. But its an option if you want to rush to level 70.

I did the 70 capstone at 60 with my sorc. And it was pretty easy. WT4 was a dog for a good while until I got better gear drops. But I leveled up super quick due to the level difference just doing regular open world stuff. I'm currently level 72 and staring to get a bit burned out. I want to get to 100 as I haven't maxed a character in a diablo game since the first. So I might take a break personally. Or maybe only play a couple dungeons or helltide a night for a bit. Personally I think this end game is super stale. They also keep nerfing dungeons to prevent people from leveling up faster.

Maybe everyone else already knew this, but I just realized that you can’t resell Diablo IV, because the disc acts as a license for one account: https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/12qt5m3/.... Super disappointing. If I had known that, I would have bought it digitally (and probably also have waited for the price to come down). I love the game, but that’s so shady that there’s nothing on the box to indicate that you can’t sell or trade it used.

^^ I don't know if I believe that? The physical console edition doesn't even come with a cd key. The comments in that thread seem to suggest the OP is wrong, has it been confirmed you can't give a PS5 disc to your friend and have them pop it in their own PS5 and play?

That post is from 2 months ago. The game came out 2 weeks ago. Also it has been confirmed in the comments that it is not true and works like every other disc game in the world.

That's good to know. I couldn't find anything to refute it.

Archer wrote:

RIP Santa. First hardcore toon to die. I’d recommend play through the whole game first or look up boss tactics before you try this mode. It was probably not a good idea to run it blind. I was running two toons concurrently in case of a surprise to prevent too many spoilers from guides- and turns out it was a good idea. The game is very easy except for a few surprise mechanics- and you can get to 50 at least without messing in dungeons or advancing the story too much. So you can avoid the surprises and that random dungeon guy.

I also did not use any build guides etc. pretty intuitive what the builds should be if you read the passives carefully.

I'm finding helltides to be very fun and relaxing in the post game on torment. Just running around killing everything on the map to get a currency to unlock chests. They last for one hour. And the hour flies by. And at level 74 its a decent xp grind as well. Get about a half a level doing it. Which is two more paragon points. Its just too bad they are spread so far apart. They last for hour, and then the next one isn't for 2 more hours.

@Feeb My first hardcore character also became fresh meat. At only level 9. Stupid squishy rouge.

Hitting Butcher mid dungeon on my first HC character in the original beta was super memorable, I was level 17 and managed to get out with like, 3% health left. He was tenacious, and I had to backtrack through 2/3rds of that fudging dungeon to hit the exit. Would have done better but foolishly I thought my homebrew build was gonna make it, two potions in I realized my folly

I’ve seen him a few times but he despawns? Into a pool of goo after I flee for a few minutes. He hasn’t got close enough to pound on me.

Hit 60. I fear the burn out soon. I really wish there was better social/lfg elements. I'd love to quickly join PUGs for dungeons and/or queue up for team based events.

Helltides and world bosses need to happen more frequently too.

This Druid is awful early. Huge end game potential but very hard to gear and talent a quick and survivable efficient start. The sorcerer is pretty much built for just that.

Yeah, I see videos of late game druid play. And I'm like that looks fun as hell. And seems extremely powerful. Then I start a druid. And I nope the fudge out of that real quick. Its slow and boring in the beginning. It takes too long to get fun/good. I also feel the same way about barb and necro.

Little more than a week later... Hit 70. Gdamnit this game is addicting. Getting it all in so I can move to Final Fantasy this week.

Cold sorc is just insane. Have been knocking out T25 dungeons for the last few levels, solo, in about ten minutes. Think it's time to bump up a bit.

I still haven’t finished the campaign.

Hardcore Sorc at 50. Santa the rogue HC died at 30 or so. (Boss of first act- never saw him on screen and did not get behind the barrier- first ever encounter…) I plan to finish campaign and possibly go for 100- sorc just feels so in control at all times- with the pot, fire shield rez and escape scrolls I see very little risk of death with careful play.

Was planning to main a rogue but it is a bit complex for a first run through. Continued with my Druid. Figured it out. Pretty much unstoppable. The butcher made the mistake of walking up on me. Smashed him. Druid has the mount and all zones open and I’m at the part where you pick swamp or something else in the ugly zone.

Normal mode does not feel nearly as fun or intense as HC- for good reason. My HC toon I used all the mechanics and merchants to stay UTD. I have not upgraded anything or used a single gem on my 45 Druid.

If anyone wants to trade pvp kills for the trophy let’s figure it out. I’ve been to the pvp zones a few times and there is always 1-3 Uber asshats there. I’m not leveled or really trying but seems easier just to skip it.

Feeb wrote:

I'd be down to do this sometime. I don't really go to the PVP zones at all. I tend to play with cross play disabled as the game performs better that way. And xbox has the smallest pool of players compared to PC and PS5, so there are not many people ever there anyways.

But I could turn cross play on and we could knock out the 5 kills each and get it done with. I think we can party up go to the zone, then un-party. That way we are guaranteed to be in the same map instance. Then find a spot away from everyone else who may be there and do the kills.

I’d like to do this too. I’m Bleed_DukeBlue on PSN

Feeb wrote: