Yeah, she is the end boss of the third capstone dungeon in worst (world) tier 4. She is level 100. You need to be at least level 90 before attempting that fight. I tried at level 65, was not a good time.
> hardcore can be random and there really is no way to super OP. Just be careful and
> use the death avoid potions.
On my way to my Diablo 3 plat, Hardcore mode made me want to toss the controller a few times... My first one died at lvl 34 and that did not bother me but I had another that died at lvl 55 and I was just sitting there looking at the screen in disbelief! But it was my Warrior at lvl 68 that really got me. I got hit with a HUGE lag spike and when everything caught up I was dead. I don't think I touched the game for 3 days... started up again after I was reading the Paladin was the way to go, I did and it was pretty smooth sailing and was shocked how easy it was... I then kicked myself for not doing the research first.
How big can your party be in D4? We should play sometime... I probably have a little catching up to do though. I maybe able to get an hour or 2 in tonight depends on how fast my courses go.. I put it off for awhile I have to the end of the month to get them done... I had a year, got 2 done and hammered out 3 yesterday... so I have 12 more to get done by next Wednesday.
>> hardcore can be random and there really is no way to super OP. Just be careful
> and
>> use the death avoid potions.
>
> What do you mean by random? I haven't started my hardcore character yet. Wanted to
> get a regular to 100 first.
The biggest factor is which elites you roll- random. For instance- over all of my toons on D4 I got very unlucky and walked into a skeletal wall with the crossbows and an elite inside at around level 12 on rogue. 95% of folks likely done there- not too far but that has been happening with my 30 HC Sorc as well. I also saw a few HC deaths at 30 or for players around / grouped with Oops.
Man, I am having a hard time with my build, too many amazing options!
I recently got a 2h staff that gives 70% bonus damage to immobilized/stunned/frozen. It's insane how quickly I can take down mobs when stunned from my build (big focus on crackling energy/crits/stun) - elites die in 2-3 chain lights. I decided to add in Frost Nova (both as an enchant + skill), and it's pretty fantastic! The bonus damage for one, but also adding vulnerability on top of it.
Problem is, I have to give up a skill. That and I definitely prefer 1h/oh for speed and additional stats/proc's. Still, after comparing both for quite a bit of time, the 2h with the stun/frozen buff is just ... insane, nothing else drpos mobs as fast.
So giving up the skill problem, as of now, I dropped Ice Armor:
Thankfully, I have a couple different bubbles that pop with gear, but man, I miss Ice Armor for longer boss fights (haven't yet died though). So far so good, but I don't see a better path forward. Only other option might be to drop teleport instead, which feels insane as that's bread and butter!
Overall, this build feels insanely OP'd. I don't see any better alternative for now to take advantage of stun and frozen.
Just took down Ashava without getting hit, so maybe I really don't need Ice armor, hrm. I'm assuming this will all change as I get higher up ... currently L51.
I finally got a chance to play the last couple of nights, and I’m loving it so far. Right now, I have a Sorceress running a chain lightning/glass cannon build that is risky but fun and a Druid hardcore character with a storm wolf build.
If you’re surviving and they’re dying your build is fine. Until max level I don’t worry about min / max. Even then I don’t care too much unless I’m watching a DPS meter- which is something wrongly focused noobs do.
Coming back to an ice-shard sorc at level 69 has been so much fun. I stopped using ice and went mostly lightening from like level 13 or 14. And now that I've gotten all this really good ice gear and going back to it feels so good. Its so powerful and so much fun to play. Its nice to change up the play style. Doing the same thing for the rest of the game would have burned me out on the character and I would never made it to 100. Not that I'm there yet. But also can't wait to get there and start a hc druid or necro
Only L53, but my Light/Cold sorc has legit been melting face ... A co-worker told me about the Ice Shards build that's supposedly best in the game. Re-rolled about a half hour ago, it's pretty fantastic, but I don't think I yet have the proper gear (CDR, MCR, RG) to reduce downtime. I'm flying through my mana and waiting for my CD's. My prior build, had very little downtime.
Still, I'm kinda digging it, just ... need better gear. I finally just said screw it and dusted like 50 legs that have been taking up space and didn't think I need the asepects on (I'm sure I'll regret it).
Finally got my first epic pieces yesterday. When the heck does Act 1 end lol I only got to play for about an hour off and on.. power kept going out, we had some pretty awesome lightning last night. I am past the Black River, killed one "boss"... I got to be near the end...
*did some reading and I think I need to stop thinking this game is like past diablo games with distinct acts.
> Finally got my first epic pieces yesterday. When the heck does Act 1 end lol I
> only got to play for about an hour off and on.. power kept going out, we had some
> pretty awesome lightning last night. I am past the Black River, killed one "boss"...
> I got to be near the end...
>
>
> *did some reading and I think I need to stop thinking this game is like past diablo
> games with distinct acts.
It has distinct acts, and you will know when you complete one. There are 6 acts and a prologue. And the story is very long compared to past games. It takes like 30+ hours.
> Oh ok, dang then I wonder when I wil, get out of this act lol
The strange thing is, when you first get to Kyovashad it gives you the first quest for Act 1, 2 and 3. The three story quest it gives you. And you can do them in any order I guess, but the ones for act 2 and 3 are a bit higher level. So if you do them out of order I'm not sure how it handles it. If you open your quest log on the map screen it will tell you what act the story quests belong to.
And after you finish an act you get a small cut sense with a voice over from one of the characters.
Well, I'm officially addicted. Gdamnit. I'm sure I'll burn out soon but purposely overdoing it before FFXVI. Man I want some better gear to support end game builds.
What's best way to grind to 70 for WT4? I'm just OCD all over the place doing everything as I collect lilith statues and redo my build constantly. Only at 56... Need to focus on leveling.
I'm assuming T1/T2 dungeons? I've only got 3 drops so far. Is there a better way to farm these to just keep popping nightmare dungeons?
I'd recommend NM dungeons. 25% more xp as the enemies will be 3+ levels higher than you. Plus you can pop an elixir for another 5%.
But if you really just want to speed it and not enjoying playing the game. Find a group and run dungeons that ways. You get another 10% xp for being in a group. And a group can clear a dungeon in under 45 seconds with splitting up. That doesn't sound fun to me. But its an option if you want to rush to level 70.
I did the 70 capstone at 60 with my sorc. And it was pretty easy. WT4 was a dog for a good while until I got better gear drops. But I leveled up super quick due to the level difference just doing regular open world stuff. I'm currently level 72 and staring to get a bit burned out. I want to get to 100 as I haven't maxed a character in a diablo game since the first. So I might take a break personally. Or maybe only play a couple dungeons or helltide a night for a bit. Personally I think this end game is super stale. They also keep nerfing dungeons to prevent people from leveling up faster.
Maybe everyone else already knew this, but I just realized that you can’t resell Diablo IV, because the disc acts as a license for one account: https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/12qt5m3/.... Super disappointing. If I had known that, I would have bought it digitally (and probably also have waited for the price to come down). I love the game, but that’s so shady that there’s nothing on the box to indicate that you can’t sell or trade it used.
^^ I don't know if I believe that? The physical console edition doesn't even come with a cd key. The comments in that thread seem to suggest the OP is wrong, has it been confirmed you can't give a PS5 disc to your friend and have them pop it in their own PS5 and play?
That post is from 2 months ago. The game came out 2 weeks ago. Also it has been confirmed in the comments that it is not true and works like every other disc game in the world.
RIP Santa. First hardcore toon to die. I’d recommend play through the whole game first or look up boss tactics before you try this mode. It was probably not a good idea to run it blind. I was running two toons concurrently in case of a surprise to prevent too many spoilers from guides- and turns out it was a good idea. The game is very easy except for a few surprise mechanics- and you can get to 50 at least without messing in dungeons or advancing the story too much. So you can avoid the surprises and that random dungeon guy.
I also did not use any build guides etc. pretty intuitive what the builds should be if you read the passives carefully.
I'm finding helltides to be very fun and relaxing in the post game on torment. Just running around killing everything on the map to get a currency to unlock chests. They last for one hour. And the hour flies by. And at level 74 its a decent xp grind as well. Get about a half a level doing it. Which is two more paragon points. Its just too bad they are spread so far apart. They last for hour, and then the next one isn't for 2 more hours.
Hitting Butcher mid dungeon on my first HC character in the original beta was super memorable, I was level 17 and managed to get out with like, 3% health left. He was tenacious, and I had to backtrack through 2/3rds of that fudging dungeon to hit the exit. Would have done better but foolishly I thought my homebrew build was gonna make it, two potions in I realized my folly
Hit 60. I fear the burn out soon. I really wish there was better social/lfg elements. I'd love to quickly join PUGs for dungeons and/or queue up for team based events.
Helltides and world bosses need to happen more frequently too.
This Druid is awful early. Huge end game potential but very hard to gear and talent a quick and survivable efficient start. The sorcerer is pretty much built for just that.
Yeah, I see videos of late game druid play. And I'm like that looks fun as hell. And seems extremely powerful. Then I start a druid. And I nope the fudge out of that real quick. Its slow and boring in the beginning. It takes too long to get fun/good. I also feel the same way about barb and necro.
Hardcore Sorc at 50. Santa the rogue HC died at 30 or so. (Boss of first act- never saw him on screen and did not get behind the barrier- first ever encounter…) I plan to finish campaign and possibly go for 100- sorc just feels so in control at all times- with the pot, fire shield rez and escape scrolls I see very little risk of death with careful play.
Was planning to main a rogue but it is a bit complex for a first run through. Continued with my Druid. Figured it out. Pretty much unstoppable. The butcher made the mistake of walking up on me. Smashed him. Druid has the mount and all zones open and I’m at the part where you pick swamp or something else in the ugly zone.
Normal mode does not feel nearly as fun or intense as HC- for good reason. My HC toon I used all the mechanics and merchants to stay UTD. I have not upgraded anything or used a single gem on my 45 Druid.
If anyone wants to trade pvp kills for the trophy let’s figure it out. I’ve been to the pvp zones a few times and there is always 1-3 Uber asshats there. I’m not leveled or really trying but seems easier just to skip it.
> If anyone wants to trade pvp kills for the trophy let’s figure it out. I’ve been
> to the pvp zones a few times and there is always 1-3 Uber asshats there. I’m not
> leveled or really trying but seems easier just to skip it.
I'd be down to do this sometime. I don't really go to the PVP zones at all. I tend to play with cross play disabled as the game performs better that way. And xbox has the smallest pool of players compared to PC and PS5, so there are not many people ever there anyways.
But I could turn cross play on and we could knock out the 5 kills each and get it done with. I think we can party up go to the zone, then un-party. That way we are guaranteed to be in the same map instance. Then find a spot away from everyone else who may be there and do the kills.
> Hardcore Sorc at 50. Santa the rogue HC died at 30 or so. (Boss of first act- never
> saw him on screen and did not get behind the barrier- first ever encounter…) I
> plan to finish campaign and possibly go for 100- sorc just feels so in control at
> all times- with the pot, fire shield rez and escape scrolls I see very little risk
> of death with careful play.
Ehhh, I mean I'm only in the T20x dungeons, but crap can get nuts with the nm dungeon random rolls. So many random explosions ... I rarely die, but when I do, it's the crazy add-ons that the dungeons add.
I can't imagine taking a Sorc to 100 on HC, that's just insane. They're too squishy to survive some of that insanity vs. other classes.
You can die and respawn with the pot in HC and there is a scroll of teleports that warps you to a random spot. You can also die with the fire shield enchant to use the scroll. I don’t think you can do that in regular mode?
I just lost a level 36 hardcore character because the game fudging locked up and then crashed. When I booted it back up I got the fallen character message. Utter bullcrap.
> You can die and respawn with the pot in HC and there is a scroll of teleports that
> warps you to a random spot. You can also die with the fire shield enchant to use
> the scroll. I don’t think you can do that in regular mode?
The fire shield doesn't need a scroll for that to work. It just auto rez's you and makes you invunlarable for 2 seconds. Its a perk of the skill. It does it eternal as well.
> I just lost a level 36 hardcore character because the game fudging locked up and
> then crashed. When I booted it back up I got the fallen character message. Utter
> bullcrap.
I’m tempted to make a hardcore character but maybe after I’ve beaten the game once. Is there any incentive? Faster leveling or anything? Or just the fun of the tension
>> You can die and respawn with the pot in HC and there is a scroll of teleports
> that
>> warps you to a random spot. You can also die with the fire shield enchant to use
>> the scroll. I don’t think you can do that in regular mode?
>
> The fire shield doesn't need a scroll for that to work. It just auto rez's you and
> makes you invunlarable for 2 seconds. Its a perk of the skill. It does it eternal
> as well.
Correct. That’s an enchantment. There are 2 death mulligans and a scroll of teleport for HC sorcerer. I certainly wouldn’t spec into that in eternal mode.
>> I just lost a level 36 hardcore character because the game fudging locked up and
>> then crashed. When I booted it back up I got the fallen character message. Utter
>> bullcrap.
>
> I’m tempted to make a hardcore character but maybe after I’ve beaten the game
> once. Is there any incentive? Faster leveling or anything? Or just the fun of the
> tension
Hardcore and eternal at not connected in anyway. So nothing carries over. But the two realms works the same. Anything you unlock in a realm like Lilith statues or the renown bonuses, they apply to any character you create in that realm. But anything you unlock in eternal will not do so in hardcore and vice versa.
Assuming you guys rolled an ice shards sorc yeah? Pretty much what everyone ends up doing.
Did you try Umbral (1-4 resource when crowd controlling enemies) and/or Starlight (10-20 resource when healing for 25% health) aspects? If so, preference, and did you notice a worthwhile impact?
My gear/build/stats are all quite good now; however, longer fights (especially with small density), I do occassionally run out of mana. I have no primary basic attack, so untill cooldowns are up, sometimes I gotta run around a bit. Typically only an issue on the really lame/slow events that have a handful of constant small mob spawns and they attack from a distance, super annoying.
I'm thinking one of these aspects may help a bit in conjunction to Prodigy (15-25 resource when using cooldown).
I’m trying out a new build for my Sorceress. I started getting multiple legendaries with buffs to meteor, so I respecced. This build kills a bit less quickly than my chain lightning mage, but is way more survivable. Basically, the idea is that you spam firewall as mobs approach, so that they walk through a field of fire everywhere they go. As they get closer, you group them with inferno and wreck them repeatedly with meteor. I have multiple skills that immobilize them when they are burning to keep them targetable by meteor. Warmth keeps you healing repeatedly, while flame shield and ice shield protect you. For the enhancements, I put a point into fireball so that dead minions explode for half of a fireball’s damage and flame shield for the automatic save from death.
MrBean wrote:
> Assuming you guys rolled an ice shards sorc yeah? Pretty much what everyone ends
> up doing.
>
> Did you try Umbral (1-4 resource when crowd controlling enemies) and/or Starlight
> (10-20 resource when healing for 25% health) aspects? If so, preference, and did
> you notice a worthwhile impact?
>
> My gear/build/stats are all quite good now; however, longer fights (especially with
> small density), I do occassionally run out of mana. I have no primary basic attack,
> so untill cooldowns are up, sometimes I gotta run around a bit. Typically only an
> issue on the really lame/slow events that have a handful of constant small mob spawns
> and they attack from a distance, super annoying.
>
> I'm thinking one of these aspects may help a bit in conjunction to Prodigy (15-25
> Assuming you guys rolled an ice shards sorc yeah? Pretty much what everyone ends
> up doing.
>
> Did you try Umbral (1-4 resource when crowd controlling enemies) and/or Starlight
> (10-20 resource when healing for 25% health) aspects? If so, preference, and did
> you notice a worthwhile impact?
>
> My gear/build/stats are all quite good now; however, longer fights (especially with
> small density), I do occassionally run out of mana. I have no primary basic attack,
> so untill cooldowns are up, sometimes I gotta run around a bit. Typically only an
> issue on the really lame/slow events that have a handful of constant small mob spawns
> and they attack from a distance, super annoying.
>
> I'm thinking one of these aspects may help a bit in conjunction to Prodigy (15-25
> resource when using cooldown).
I prefer orbs over shards for survivability and it feels like they freeze way more often. You may want to try to spec into frost bolt - glinting frost bolt as it restores mana per hit for no cost. There is also ice armor passive regen passive. I tried shards when I had a proc from a legendary that made it free and with higher crit chance.
Avalanche (Key Passive): Cold skill damage has a chance of enhancing your next Ice Shards cast, making it cost no mana while buffing its damage by 40%.
Lots of kiting and you must cast bolts to proc it but much less downtime with the shield regen and bolts. This is a hardcore build so I’m trying to stay alive vs DPS though.
Teleport is also a much better skill than ice nova for kiting / surviving imo. But if you’re pretty confident and have your flame shield enchant, scroll, pot then nova definitely helps with the downtime on the shards.
I run an ice shards/blizzard combo build currently. I never run out of mana. I have a lucky hit/constant barrier setup to restore mana. I also have high mana cost reduction and resource regeneration on my items.
I run these aspects:
Disobedience - generate .40% armor per hit up to 40% increased armor Fortune - lucky hit increased by 20% when I have a barrier Biting Cold - freezing an enemy has a 35% chance to also make them vulnerable (for non frost nova freezes, specifically blizzard as it its a freeze machine) Snowveiled - casting ice armor makes you invulnerable for 3 seconds Shared Misery - 48% chance of spreading control to an enemy that doesn't have it when hitting one that does. Frozen Memories - The Avalance key passive now provides two free casts of ice shards or blizzard Control - 50% more damage to frozen Piercing cold - shards pierce 4 times dealing 22% less damage Glacial - casting blizzard also makes it produce ice spikes that deal 1180 damage per spike. And deals 25%x more damage to frozen
On my gear everything that can have a lucky hit increase has it. My lucky hit chance is 58%. But increase that by 20% when I have a barrier, which I always do. So the lucky hit to restore mana in the skill tree procs constantly. Its super rare for me to deplete my mana.
I also have increased mana on two items bringing me to a total of 136. And with having 14 mana per second regen due to resource regeneration on items helps. Along with 28% reduced mana costs on items.
So lots of re-rolls at the arcane vendor on my items to get what I wanted on them.
I also don't run any of the meta stuff like flame shield or fire bolt for burning damage or any of that stuff. I have a pure ice build. And it shreds. And I'm not a glass cannon. I have major survivability due to constant barriers, inflated armor numbers from the aspect and I have 3000 thorns just in case something does break all that. Plus two skills that provide invulnerable (ice armor and teleport) in case I get crowed controlled.
I am level 79 so I probably have some higher gear with better affixes on them. And my paragon board is three deep currently. But I'm done when I hit 80. Then I'll wait for new content to drop a new world tier. As the grind after 70 is fudging ludicrous currently.
So my loop is I have frost bolt and ice shards as my enchantments. Bolt gives 17% extra chill build up on any skill hit. And ice shards auto shoots ice shards at any frozen enemy for free, no mana cost. So blizzard is my main skill. I use it constantly. I run around dropping blizzards and freezing everything, or killing trash mobs with the ice spikes. Then my free shards auto finish them off and shatter the frozen ones. Ice shards is only really used directly by me on stragglers and elites/bosses. I also use nova when I get rushed by a big mob to instant freeze them. And when facing massive elite mobs or bosses I have ice armor and teleport for backup. I do not run an ultimate skill either. I put as many points as I could into skill tree passives. So my only skills are ice bolt, ice shard, blizzard, frost nova and ice shield. I also have teleport but that comes from my pants that provided +4 to the skill. So I don't have any of its extra perks. All other skill points go into passives and buffs. The paragon board is the only thing I can't explain off the top of my head without looking at the game. But I have the two ice ones. The one that gives you a barrier for chilling an enemy and the other one increases your lucky hit by 1% for every frozen enemy killed. I think that whats it is, its 1% lucky hit for something with ice.
I've only been playing every few days for half an hour or so... weird thing happened today. I was AFK, talking on discord and I alt tabbed in a part of the map that I had cleared a few minutes ago, and still standing still, I hit level 30. No idea how. It was literally an AFK ding.
I started a new HC Necro. I'm having a lot of fun with it so far. Doing a pure minion build. The cosmetics for the necro are miles beyond the crap they did for sorc. Necros look awesome. Everything I unlocked for the sorc looked mid to bad. This may also be the easiest way to survive in HC. So far nothing has been able to get remotely close to me. I'm only level 17. But I have 8 minions at all times. I basically just make sure they are buffed and healed. This may get boring after a bit, hard to say this early in.
Hit 79 with the Sorc, still having a blast. I am not yet sure when I'll be ready for 40 NM dungeons, still hanging in the 30's. Hoping to replace a couple pieces of gear soon.
I did a temp aspect to compare some stats and make a rare a legendary, ended up being great. I have a perfect roll I want to use on it, but can't. Won't let me imprint anything now. Appears to be common, fun.
> I did a temp aspect to compare some stats and make a rare a legendary, ended up being
> great. I have a perfect roll I want to use on it, but can't. Won't let me imprint
> anything now. Appears to be common, fun.
I found that un-equipping said item and putting in my stash. Then logging out of the game and back in. That would let me then imprint over the existing one. But it was 50/50 if it worked. Some times I'd have to do it like 3-4 times and then all the sudden it would work.
However, be aware this only happens when you imprint a sacred level aspect on to an ancestral item. So after realizing this I just stashed all my sacred level aspects or trashed them. So I didn't end up using them.
You should also know, that you can improve some aspects by leveling up the item before ripping the aspect off of it. You can't do this to ones with a flat percent stat (%x). But anything that is a + stat, will increase with item power level. And they increase with your character level as well in your codex. So for example the gain X amount of barrier when hitting an elite every 30 seconds. If you find that on something and its say 4,100 for the barrier. If you level that item up 5 times it will increase to say 4800 on the barrier. Then you can rip. You want to do this because it will not increase in value when leveling up after imprinting. Imprinted aspects do not function the same as base aspects on found gear.
Just hit level 50 with my HC necro. And now I think I'm done with this until season one drops. I don't think I have it in me to to grind to 100 with my sorc. Getting to 80 was painful enough.
> What are y’all thoughts on this and the buffs? Im level 19 with rogue but waiting
> to dive into this after TotK
I don't really want to post a giant wall of text about it. And I don't have anything positive to say about it after logging in and testing some things.
> Good. Experience needs a huge buff; especially if the game wants to realize it’s
> ideal of multiple toons using earned rewards etc.
Its not a "significant" buff like they claim. Its actually a very minor buff. It isn't good enough. No where near where it needs to be. And I think they are doing this minor buff to just to try and placate people until season 1. Because they don't want to hand out the actual xp buff until the season pass bull crap thing where you have to earn the in game currency to buy the fudging xp buff for the seasonal character.
> Didn't fix the imprinting thing eh? lovely. Also, transmog still broken for sorc
> offhand. Cmon slackers.
A few of the sorc aspects are still broken too. Like the %x more damage with a barrier. That has never worked. There are a couple others as well people are posting about on their official forums.
And then tested it by putting it on an almost identical wand. Same damage with and without a barrier on both wands. One with the aspect and one without.
@MrBean That would be nice. I also just saw a post that said it only doesn't work with your skill barriers, which is what I was testing it with. It says it works with generated barriers. I.e. gain x% of your health as a barrier for doing X action. So I'll have to test that later when I have time. If that is the case, then its still worth continuing to use. As 80% of my barrier uptime at least is from that kind of stuff. But when doing the testing I was just quick popping ice shield.
At first I though that was only in Hardcore mode but apparently you can fight her in "normal mode"
