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If you saw with the Keurig Kold machine, this will most definitely be a fail. But this concept is actually worse than the Kold.

Not only that, but they want to charge you by the drink. And have cartridges on top. That model will not end up too well.

When you shop at the super market for say soda, you control what you're willing to pay for it. And you can typically get 36 cans for 10-11 bucks on sale by me. I highly doubt this will be cheaper.

I'm assuming alcoholic drinks will cost the most. And you can most definitely mix your own drinks for cheaper than say $3.

Diabetes, with just a press of a button.

I'm guessing this is basically the same idea around using boxed soda distribution, but on a smaller level. I worked with them for years and it's usually 3-4 parts water per one part flavoring per beverage regardless of size, plus 1 part carbonation.

While the idea is intriguing I don't see the benefit of it if you are limited to the suppliers price point on the actual cartridges vs creating your own instead. I've gone away from soda over the last 2-3 years, I really only drink it if i absolutely have to at home or if im out and a rootbeer float or cream soda is in front of me.

I was buying bottled water at about 10 cases at a time and just using flavored single packets that are usually 6-8 per pack for $1 at dollar general or places of that nature, but from what I've noticed from most if not all the soda flavorings is they truly lack that carbonation element to them and are just flat versions of themselves. Because of this i usually stick to the kool aid, hawaiian punch, starburst and sunkists preferably and use tap water and just boil it though a coffee maker double filtered strictly for that purpose and have noticed an incredible about of weight loss from this and not to mention the overall flavor of the water itself is just better because of this.

We've come to truly enjoy sodastream with Stur (stevia based all natural flavoring), so I don't know if this will actually replace it or not. I dig the idea of cocktails and other beverages but it does feel a bit too ambitious and ultimately, how the hell will they taste.

Welp, this failed. They just refunded those that put forth the $100 reservation. I had a feeling this was never gonna happen.

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Dear Adam,

Regretfully, we will not be able to ship Cana One to customers in 2023 as originally planned.

Because we do not have line of sight on a ship date, we will refund your $99 reservation fee within the next 24 hours. You will get a confirmation email from Shopify once this happens. If the credit card you used for your original purchase via Shopify has expired or been canceled, your bank will credit your new card with the refund or mail you a cheque. We will reach back out to you in the future if we can fulfill a delivery commitment.

Despite showing a fully-functional Cana One last month, with great brand partners ready to launch their beverages on the Cana platform, we needed a sizable investment to build our production line to manufacture and ship devices. Unfortunately, the funding environment for pre-launch hardware projects has largely collapsed, making it unlikely for us to hit our goal of shipping this year.

We launched Cana not because the work would be easy or success guaranteed. Rather, we wanted to help solve the global trash crisis, one of our civilization’s biggest problems. We hope to bring Cana to market at some point and will continue to explore options for the future. We strongly believe that molecular beverage printing at home will inevitably replace the incumbent beverage and bottling complex and usher in an era of clean, efficient, decentralized manufacturing.

We look forward to being a part of that bright future.

Thank you for your understanding,

Team Cana

This is the case of a great idea that was next to impossible to execute. I worked fast food for 5 years and one of my jobs was to calibrate the drink machine that mixed the syrup with carbonated water. I never understood why the ratio would change without someone manually making a change, but it required frequent adjustment.

Their goal of reducing waste goes against the grain of the way consumers have been programmed in the last 50 years to pay for convenience. Customers have been conditioned to save time by purchasing single use (usually disposable) packages rather than a bulk package.

When I was a kid, soft drinks only came in glass bottles. Consumers paid a bottle deposit when they bought a soft drink, and they got it back when they returned the empty bottle. Then suppliers transitioned to putting soft drinks in disposable cans and plastic bottles. Despite the best recycling efforts and a few states going back to the deposit system, most of these end up in the trash. We've gone from water fountains to disposable water bottles, and many reports say the water quality from bottled water is no better than tap. I've seen a few dispensing systems for water where you can refill your personal bottle, but not many people seem to be using them.

Michigan here is still one of the best for soft drink recycling. 10c per can/bottle and our recovery rate on those is like over 95%. (It is usually like 98%, but Covid brought the numbers down.)

John wrote:

My wife's parents lived in Michigan and her sister's family still does. Our daughter would love it when we visited them because she could pick up plastic bottles and cans and make a few bucks while she was there. When we would go to Mackinaw City, there were many containers she could get the deposit for in the trash bins.

My city has curbside recycling. The city gives us a bin for paper, plastic, and aluminum and we are supposed to separate these from our regular trash. When I walk my dog through my neighborhood on trash day, I see several homes where people have included their recylclable materials with their regular trash.

We have deposit in Iowa, but thanks to Covid stores no longer accept any bottles or cans, and the only recycling center within an hour only takes glass during a small number of hours and requires it to be boxed. They also are only open M-F during normal business hours (so if you work those hours you're screwed), and they close without any notice regularly. They also only take certain cans and bottles. God forbid you buy anything (in state) that isn't common. They refused my deposit multiple times on items clearly marked for an IA refund. It's a huge pain in the ass, so much so we regularly just recycle glass and large plastic containers and lose out on deposits.

Walmart has automated machines, but they rarely work, and require you to go to customer service to get paid. Honestly it would be much better to forego the deposit system and reinvest in actual recycling centers. I didn't see any difference in litter between states with and without deposits.

KCPenguins wrote:


Even though my city has curbside recycling, the bottle (glass and plastic) and can litter level is high. As stated previously, I live in Indiana and travel to Michigan at least once a year. The difference in litter - at least from bottles and cans - is obvious. Michigan's success may be due to the fact that their deposit is $0.10 where almost every other state only does $0.05 so the incentive is greater. I've used the automated recycling systems in Michigan's Wal-marts and Meijers and have never had a real problem, only minor inconveniences. I've had to wait to get to a machine in a store where there were about a dozen, and I've had to wait until a machine was emptied and reset. Taking the deposit slip to Customer Service to get cash is also a minor inconvenience, but (at least in Michigan) you can simply scan the deposit slip like a coupon at checkout. As I understand Michigan's rules, any outlet that sells drinks in containers that require a deposit are required to take back containers from the same brands they sell and pay the deposit. You can take Coke and Pepsi product bottles and cans to almost any corner grocery or gas station and get your deposit.

Many years ago, a friend of mine invested in "reverse vending machines" for our city that would take your aluminum cans and pay you immediately. He placed them outside the larger grocery stores in town, but they failed immediately. At $0.50/lb, one needs to recycle 2 aluminum cans to get $0.01. You had to insert an uncrushed can, so taking a large amount took up a lot of space in your vehicle. The pennies one gets from simply recycling this way just weren't enough of an incentive. Today I can take a 30 lb bag of aluminum cans to a recycling center and make about $15, but it is hardly worth the trouble of storing them in my garage and then driving out of my way to a recycling center in town. I also take other scrap metals when I take my aluminum and they pay a few cents per pound. A couple of months ago I took them my large over-the-range microwave after it failed and maybe got a couple of bucks. There is no monetary reward in my area for recycling plastic bottles.

My area used to have recycling outlets that would pay decent prices for newspaper and cardboard, but I guess the curbside recycling was too much competition. It was common to see guys behind retail stores loading their waste cardboard on modified pickup trucks. I had a hatchback car that I could load with newspaper from my family and friends and it would be worth a trip to the recycling center when I could run other errands in the same area.

Tony wrote:


Well it is Indiana... :P

I honestly didn't notice any difference in the Midwest regardless of state or deposit. Granted I've only been to Michigan once for a brief business trip when I was younger, so I can't really comment there.



I'm at the mercy of 1 understaffed Walmart. If the machines aren't fullor or out of order, they only pick up maybe half the barcodes. Bring in 2 bags, likely taking 1 if not both home.

Maybe it's changed now, but I tried scanning it at self check out and was told by the attendant I could only redeem it at CS. It was less than a dollar thanks to the crapty machines so I tossed it.



As I said it used to be that way... not anymore. It's Walmart's crap machines or roll the dice that the redemption center is open and doesn't have someone with many large bags of uncounted cans.

That's another thing that pisses me off. I buy 1 size trash bag for my cans. I know if I stuff it I get 155-165 cans. So I tell them 150/bag and try to get out of there as it smells like piss. And you know none of those bags get recycled. Straight to the trash. It'd be simple to dump my cans off when I dump my plastic, paper, etc, but no, I have to buy bags that end up as trash and waste gas to drive to a center that may or may not be open.

MrBean wrote:

I figured this would happen when the CEO left for another start-up. That CEO used to work at the same large company I used to work for.

The new bottle/can machines at our local Meijer are insane. Like, it takes them just as fast as you can feed them in as long as you do it one at a time. Usually, you are always waiting and such -- but with these new ones, you can literally just feed them in as fast as you can take them out of the cart/bag! Like $10 worth in a few minutes!

John wrote:


That would be amazing.

John wrote:

The ones I used in Michigan last year were like that. You can see where your container is being scanned, and as soon as it was accepted and transferred out of the scanning section you could load another. Most people I saw weren't fast enough to keep up with them.

Tony wrote:


Didn't just spit that crap back to you... cause that's what I experienced. Anything with a white/clear/silver barcode had 0 chance of being read. Even black and white took multiple attempts if it was ever accepted... Hopefully Walmart here upgrades, as it would be nice to scan 95% of deposits and redeem it as a credit at check out.

KCPenguins wrote:


When I first used the machines, someone there told me the codes have to be clean. Sometimes when a container was rejected, I had to rub over the code with my thumb to remove debris. A few times a little spit was needed to remove dried liquid - even if it looked clear. Sometimes I had to blow up dented cans or bottles like a balloon in order to get them back into shape where they could be read properly. I had very few that were completely rejected for reasons other than it was a brand the store didn't carry.

Keep in mind that my experience on this matter is very limited. I've only used them once or twice a year.

My daughter would collect rejected containers from the waste bin and take them to another store in case they would be accepted there. e.g. She would find people had discarded Meijer brand soft drinks in Wal-mart.

KCPenguins wrote:

This is how most of them are here where I am in Michigan. These Meijer ones are brand new and insanely good. I've never seen anything like it.

Now, granted, they are brand new from the factory -- so maybe they'll be crap in a year too...