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Topic   Interest Check: Online Blocked PS5

Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
11-Apr-2023(#1)
WS-116332-6 Error code, reported as "Lost" to Sony.

Functions fine for offline play, but no online capabilities with the PSN Store.
Joeya2001
Silver Good Trader
11-Apr-2023(#2)
You buy it second hand?
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
11-Apr-2023(#3)
Joeya2001 wrote:
> You buy it second hand?

Yes, it was bought secondhand.
Joeya2001
Silver Good Trader
11-Apr-2023(#4)
Oduomega wrote:
> Joeya2001 wrote:
>> You buy it second hand?
>
> Yes, it was bought secondhand.

That sucks I’m sorry, I heard stories of people selling them then reporting it them lost
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
11-Apr-2023(#5)
What good would that do? It's not like Sony sends them a replacement. That's a lot of work for nothing
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
11-Apr-2023(#6)
DarkFact wrote:
> What good would that do? It's not like Sony sends them a replacement. That's a
> lot of work for nothing
I struggle to see the logic in that too.
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
11-Apr-2023(#7)
Saying "lost" makes people more likely to contact Sony to try to resolve it.

A message saying "stolen" would get people to call the police.

Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
11-Apr-2023(#8)
benstylus wrote:
> Saying "lost" makes people more likely to contact Sony to try to resolve it.
>
> A message saying "stolen" would get people to call the police.
>
>
Yeah, and either way Sony won't do jack squat about it.
MrBean
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (7) Has Written 1 Review
* 11-Apr-2023(#9)
Never heard of this, but quick Google says it's more so that someone was banned, not necessarily stolen. Would think it's tied to username, not physical hardware (MAC?).

Did you call them to validate why it was banned?

Anyway, looks like you can appeal it. Do you have any type of receipt or proof of purchase? This has to be a common scenario to Sony.

https://youtu.be/cri4K0Xm67k
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
11-Apr-2023(#10)
MrBean wrote:
> Never heard of this, but quick Google says it's more so that someone was banned,
> not necessarily stolen. Would think it's tied to username, not physical hardware
> (MAC?).
>
> Did you call them to validate why it was banned?
>
> Anyway, looks like you can appeal it. Do you have any type of receipt or proof of
> purchase? This has to be a common scenario to Sony.
>
No PoP, bought from an individual, and I talked to Sony, they said they cannot do anything about it.
MrBean
GameTZ Gold Subscriber 400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (7) Has Written 1 Review
11-Apr-2023(#11)
Damn, that sucks man
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
11-Apr-2023(#12)
I'm just looking to see if anyone wants it for either parts or just to have in their collection, or whatever people do with these when they're barred from the PSN and online stuff...
Joeya2001
Silver Good Trader
* 11-Apr-2023(#13)
Yea, Sony will not unban an a system if it’s reported stolen
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
11-Apr-2023(#14)
Joeya2001 wrote:
> Yea, Sony will not I’m an a system if it’s reported stolen
Reported as "Lost", not stolen.
Joeya2001
Silver Good Trader
* 12-Apr-2023(#15)
Oduomega wrote:
> Joeya2001 wrote:
>> Yea, Sony will not unban an a system if it’s reported stolen
> Reported as "Lost", not stolen.
Well it’s not “lost” if you have it
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
12-Apr-2023(#16)
Joeya2001 wrote:
> Oduomega wrote:
>> Joeya2001 wrote:
> |>> Yea, Sony will not unban an a system if it’s reported stolen
>> Reported as "Lost", not stolen.
> Well it’s not “lost” if you have it
True, but Sony apparently doesn't care.
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 12-Apr-2023(#17)
I wonder if you can call up support and say you bought it secondhand from a pawn shop, maybe they can put in some sort of waiting period. It seems really stupid to me that you could sell a PS5, then for some reason call up Sony and tell them it was lost and they'd just block it indefinitely off the network. If you've got proof of purchase, I don't really see a reason for them to just blacklist it forever.

Sorry I know this is off topic but I'm legitimately blown away by this concept. I'll behave. What were you thinking of selling it for?
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
12-Apr-2023(#18)
DarkFact wrote:
> I wonder if you can call up support and say you bought it secondhand from a pawn
> shop, maybe they can put in some sort of waiting period. It seems really stupid
> to me that you could sell a PS5, then for some reason call up Sony and tell them
> it was lost and they'd just block it indefinitely off the network. If you've got
> proof of purchase, I don't really see a reason for them to just blacklist it forever.
>
> Sorry I know this is off topic but I'm legitimately blown away by this concept.
> I'll behave. What were you thinking of selling it for?
At cost, hopefully.

$300 shipped would cover what I have in it.
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 12-Apr-2023(#19)
Can this still get updates? So like the only thing that wouldn't work is always online titles, right? Or if FF16 had a weird "needs to check into servers before playing" thing. Like Doom Classic had for a while
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
12-Apr-2023(#20)
DarkFact wrote:
> Can this still get updates? So like the only thing that wouldn't work is always
> online titles, right? Or if FF16 had a weird "needs to check into servers before
> playing" thing. Like Doom Classic had for a while
I would imagine so? It’s currently up to date on firmware, but there hasn’t been an update release to test that. It can still connect to WiFi, just not to PSN.
heatdolphins45
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
12-Apr-2023(#21)
Could I still earn trophies on my PSN account (if I played the GOW campaign, for example) or is it strictly offline play with no PSN benefits?
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
12-Apr-2023(#22)
heatdolphins45 wrote:
> Could I still earn trophies on my PSN account (if I played the GOW campaign, for
> example) or is it strictly offline play with no PSN benefits?
Strictly offline for PSN, as far as I know.
akfa
Double Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
12-Apr-2023(#23)
How long have you had it? I see some reddit posts where people say they got unbanned after X amount of time. One person says to call tech support/center and they may be able to tell you how long the ban is for?
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
13-Apr-2023(#24)
akfa wrote:
> How long have you had it? I see some reddit posts where people say they got unbanned
> after X amount of time. One person says to call tech support/center and they may
> be able to tell you how long the ban is for?
A couple of months now.

When I talked to Sony, they wouldn't give me any more info other than "this console has been reported as 'Lost', nothing we can do about this."
youruglyclone
GameTZ Subscriber Bronze Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9)
13-Apr-2023(#25)
kinda tempted...any flexibility on price?
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
13-Apr-2023(#26)
youruglyclone wrote:
> kinda tempted...any flexibility on price?
Pm’d
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
17-Apr-2023(#27)
I stand corrected...you can play PS4 games on it...almost tempted to keep it now...
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
17-Apr-2023(#28)
@youruglyclone @DarkFact @benstylus
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
17-Apr-2023(#29)
For 300? That's a keep
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
17-Apr-2023(#30)
DarkFact wrote:
> For 300? That's a keep
Ikr?
HybridCRoW
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
17-Apr-2023(#31)
You've had it for a few months and it is just NOW doing a ban??

Have you tried to contact the person/place you bought it from and told them? Seems to me they need to buy it back from you and then report to Sony that it is not lost... or report to Sony it's not lost to unblock it.

Either way, if you know who/where you got it from, go to them to make reparations or you can report they sold you stolen goods... IMO, even though it says "LOST" and Sony can't/won't do anything about it, technically it is stolen.
Gypsy
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
18-Apr-2023(#32)
So this can play games fine, just not online?
Joeya2001
Silver Good Trader
18-Apr-2023(#33)
Gypsy wrote:
> So this can play games fine, just not online?

Think if a banned switch, just PS5 lol
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
18-Apr-2023(#34)
HybridCRoW wrote:
> You've had it for a few months and it is just NOW doing a ban??
>
> Have you tried to contact the person/place you bought it from and told them? Seems
> to me they need to buy it back from you and then report to Sony that it is not lost...
> or report to Sony it's not lost to unblock it.
>
> Either way, if you know who/where you got it from, go to them to make reparations
> or you can report they sold you stolen goods... IMO, even though it says "LOST"
> and Sony can't/won't do anything about it, technically it is stolen.

This should not be how it works imo. If it was stolen, there should be a police report put in place to make banning it from PSN a demonstrable reaction to someone reporting the theft of an item, if I can just call up Sony after selling the system and say it was lost to be spiteful, that's a stupid system and a dumb reason to ban it from accessing online platform forever. Obviously this is meant to push someone to just buy a new system (especially now that they're discounting them, they REALLY want them to move)
KCPenguins
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader
* 18-Apr-2023(#35)
"Lost" is likely corporate lawyer speak. Sony would not be involved in a police report, and the police won't waste time on a relatively low dollar item unless it's delivered to them.

It's like when I had a large rebate stolen. It was highly likely it was stolen at a mail sort center. I knew the exact time, date and location where it was redeemed. It was a store I've never been to, and conveniently in the city where the mail sort center is that supplies our local PO. All the stores have cameras at entry and check-out, and it requires a signature to redeem (stupidly no id). I know I'll never see that money, but if it was PO employee they need to get hammered. Sadly there have been multiple PO employees fired for this exact thing in states nearby.

(Channeling my inner lawyer) I'm not saying this system is stolen.
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
18-Apr-2023(#36)
Gypsy wrote:
> So this can play games fine, just not online?
Yep
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
18-Apr-2023(#37)
KCPenguins wrote:
> "Lost" is likely corporate lawyer speak. Sony would not be involved in a police
> report, and the police won't waste time on a relatively low dollar item unless it's
> delivered to them.
>
> It's like when I had a large rebate stolen. It was highly likely it was stolen at
> a mail sort center. I knew the exact time, date and location where it was redeemed.
> It was a store I've never been to, and conveniently in the city where the mail sort
> center is that supplies our local PO. All the stores have cameras at entry and check-out,
> and it requires a signature to redeem (stupidly no id). I know I'll never see that
> money, but if it was PO employee they need to get hammered. Sadly there have been
> multiple PO employees fired for this exact thing in states nearby.
>
> (Channeling my inner lawyer) I'm not saying this system is stolen.

You reported that right?
KCPenguins
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader
18-Apr-2023(#38)
DarkFact wrote:
> KCPenguins wrote:
>> "Lost" is likely corporate lawyer speak. Sony would not be involved in a police
>> report, and the police won't waste time on a relatively low dollar item unless
> it's
>> delivered to them.
>>
>> It's like when I had a large rebate stolen. It was highly likely it was stolen
> at
>> a mail sort center. I knew the exact time, date and location where it was redeemed.
>> It was a store I've never been to, and conveniently in the city where the mail
> sort
>> center is that supplies our local PO. All the stores have cameras at entry and
> check-out,
>> and it requires a signature to redeem (stupidly no id). I know I'll never see
> that
>> money, but if it was PO employee they need to get hammered. Sadly there have
> been
>> multiple PO employees fired for this exact thing in states nearby.
>>
>> (Channeling my inner lawyer) I'm not saying this system is stolen.
>
> You reported that right?


He'll yes I did. I hope they get found and fired, but I won't see a dime nor ever hear about it unless it makes the news.
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
25-Apr-2023(#39)
This sold. Thank you guys for your interest!

This was good to have while I had it. Hopefully, I can get a fully-enabled system next time! The PS5 is the only thing I don't have in my PlayStation collection, lol.
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
25-Apr-2023(#40)
Scalpers are unloading their stock hard lately so look for used prices to go down (selling something as new that it turns out doesn't have a warranty's a great case for a no questions asked return on pretty much any payment platform).
WithinTemptation
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
25-Apr-2023(#41)
DarkFact wrote:
> Scalpers are unloading their stock hard lately so look for used prices to go down
> (selling something as new that it turns out doesn't have a warranty's a great case
> for a no questions asked return on pretty much any payment platform).

I've been out of the loop. What is the reason they are unloading them? You mentioned they are discontinuing them?
DarkFact
400 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
25-Apr-2023(#42)
No, they're just worth less than they paid for them, and they'll continue to drop in price so now stock is a liability, they have to liquidate.
Gypsy
GameTZ Subscriber 250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
25-Apr-2023(#43)
DarkFact wrote:
> No, they're just worth less than they paid for them, and they'll continue to drop
> in price so now stock is a liability, they have to liquidate.

Yeah no one actually wants 50 PS5s or w/e.
HybridCRoW
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
25-Apr-2023(#44)
I've seen quite a few folks on Marketplace groups near me trying to re-sell used PS5s and Xbox Series consoles as new simply because they only played it once or twice... it's ridiculous they think they can get back what they paid.
Oduomega
Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally
25-Apr-2023(#45)
Gypsy wrote:
> DarkFact wrote:
>> No, they're just worth less than they paid for them, and they'll continue to drop
>> in price so now stock is a liability, they have to liquidate.
>
> Yeah no one actually wants 50 PS5s or w/e.
Maybe for a supercomputer like they did with the PS3's and PS2's?

Topic   Interest Check: Online Blocked PS5