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If a Vita needed a PS5 to function

Vita sucked anyway compared to PSP I mean technically it was a nice handheld but they just failed to put exclusive games on it. Sony put 1 Uncharted but I can't think of much else as far as 1st party. I'm talking about new games built specifically for it. It was mostly a port machine.

I tried playing Borderlands 2 on it and threw up in my mouth. I do not get the fanbase, that thing is a turd. It appears some of the best content for it is just PlayStation 1 remasters and rehashes with the occasional PS2 downgrade... And visual novels. Wait, other than VNs I'm talking about the far superior PSP, nevermind. Vita blows

https://www.engadget.com/playstation-portal-review...

As I had presumed, Engadget says unless your connection(s!) are flawless, Portal's a big pice of dook. And at one point he had to ditch the Portal and play Switch instead, haha

Well it's a device that only does Remote Play for $200. Just spend some extra money on a Deck and you can remote play PS5 + play Steam games as well. Idiots will still buy it though

DarkFact wrote:

Which they need to be to do remote play. This is pretty obvious unless you’re slower than average.

A guy with gigabit AT&T service in his own home still having instances where the crap's just intermittent, not great. If he had DSL at home or something, that's one thing, but you have ZERO control over your connectivity outside your own home, so if it's gonna crap itself at home under optimal situations, sounds like a lemon.

Lol. Just like anything that connects to wifi. Welcome to the wireless age ya’ll.

This thing is the opposite of the vita for TV box they made. Neither of them need to exist. Its mind boggling to me all the dumb crap they do. They also abandon all these things super quickly. They don't sell tens of millions of units in 6 months, so they just give up on them.

Honestly all the “dumb” stuff sony has released recently has been gold. Like the 200$ pad and VR. They do alright. This isn’t a platform to abandon, it’s a limited target product/ that I’d almost guarantee surpasses the internal sales forecast. Holiday, shortage, Sony= zombie buy.

I get mine in tomorrow, I am cognizant of the issues and I will be keeping a special eye out for them. If I'm getting any sort of frequent blockiness or streaming hiccups I won't be keeping it.

Last time I used the official Playstation Remote Play app there was blockiness. Pretty much why I call it useless.

well I'll find out tomorrow.

Thanks for guinea pigging it for the rest of us.

Looks like my Portal is coming in earlier than expected (today), so I’ll post about it soon. I’m kind of amazed that I’m getting a pre-order via mail day one from GameStop.

I'm definitely interested if they iron out the kinks and it goes down a bit. Still not sure a DS5 controller glued to an Amazon tablet's worth $200, and knowing that like, at Grandma's house, this would be a $200 brick makes me significantly less interested.

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

A day late for me, and I ordered from playstation who advertised "release day delivery".

I've had zero latency issues on the portal. It's crystal clear with no hiccups so far. Note that I have a really solid home network (Ubiquiti) with multiple APs.

MrBean wrote:

What is APs?

Access points I think

ErickRPG wrote:

Access Points. I have several hardwired throughout my house. So my WiFi is very strong inside and outside.

I will test at some point over a slower network (like hot spotting off my phone).

Is ubiquiti your service provider or do they just supply signal strengthening stuff? I might look into getting something like one or two of those. I have att but it’s like 300mbps.

ErickRPG wrote:

Ubiquiti is my network hardware (router, switches, access points). Have anywhere from 80-120 devices on the network at any one time, and it's consistently rock solid. You need to know some basic networking/technical skills, but overall, it's quite simple to be honest. The UniFi line is fantastic as a line that's designed for small to medium business, but absolutely badass for consumer use.

I currently have Time Warner Cable for internet (500mb), and it's pretty reliable/stable.

If WiFi is your issue, it's typically not your ISP, but your network. There are a ton of great modern, consumer mesh networks. I would stick with Asus, Linksys, and maybe Google. Netgear is an option too, but I've had bad experiences with their early mesh systems (supposedly much better these days).

I just tested in bed and my dl speed is 75.4 mbps. Well above sonys recommended speed. So hopefully I get great image quality with little to no degradation.

ErickRPG wrote:

Yah that should be absolutely more than adequate!

Overall the portal is better than expected, but I think $150 would be a better entry point.

Although given the cost of a DS and a proper screen of this quality, and obviously R&D + profit... $200 makes sense for launch.

It'll go on sale and eventually come down once they've made their money back.

Persona and Yakuza movies?

https://www.ign.com/articles/persona-and-yakuza-co...

Sorry about that.

ErickRPG wrote:

MrBean wrote:

Well, there you go then. Just engineer, purchase and set up your own mesh network and you, too, can play PS5 away from your TV screen at diminished quality. So let's add this up, out of curiosity's sake, we're at $500 for the system, $200 for the tablet, how much for the networking equipment...? I think my favorite part of the Portal is the convenience factor

We get it. You’re broke.

Yeah, that's the problem.

You don't need a high end network Your house composition, device placement, and quality of router matters regardless in modern era of high bandwidth needs. Not a portal problem.

MrBean wrote:

"I've got a corporate network solution in my home and it's flawless" and "I've got AT&T Fiber and it crap itself several times" are the two testimonials I've heard so far, so whether it's a technical failing of the Portal or not, I suspect at the end of the day it doesn't matter if it's the hardware in the Portal or the capabilities and infrastructure of the network, if the Portal craps itself and everything else on the network is happy, the conclusion is going to be "it's a Portal problem" regardless.

Not to crap on anyone who can use and enjoy it without problems obviously. Just being critical for the sake of critique. If the appeal is "Play away from the system" and the actual best use case is hyper-ideal and unrealistic, this doesn't really seem like a mass market product to me anymore. Time will tell! I'm sure people will weigh in and if it's rockin by and large, it'll keep selling.

Like paying 500$ for a GPU. Sounds stupid huh?

Don't disagree with ya, but my point was only that modern consumption demands equipment to support it. We've got households all concurrently streaming 4k content and dog at ISP when they use the default junk that the provider gave them. I'm biased as I've worked from home for ten years now, but my home network is critical for professional and personal and will always say it's worth investment.

Regardless, you're not wrong in your perspective. Super cool device, with an asterisk with subtext of requiring adequate infrastructure.

Feeb wrote:

??

MrBean wrote:

Yeah I figured this wasn't a "for the fudge of it" setup, most consumers don't set up Ubiquiti

DarkFact wrote:

You’re knocking on an item that requires a good setup to work. You don’t see this same argument works for PC gaming in general? Like buying a GPU requires everything else in line etc? I’m waiting on you to point out you need a home and a power bill to use the ps5 at this point.

Feeb wrote:

I dont think the mass PS5 consumer was told by marketing they need a corporate grade network to play Spider-Man 2 at Grandma’s house to ensure proper connectivity (in fact I’m not even certain everyone understands this needs a PS5 at home to begin with) so I’m not sure why you’re building this PC Gamer straw man here.

And I’m a poor. Seems like you’re just looking for attention. Like I said, just the two testimonials we have so far, if it's fine everyone's gonna say it's fine and it's just going to be an isolated issue with some networks. My concern is the Engadget reviewer is probably significantly closer to the mass adoption audience than Bean is, (actually better, since I don't think AT&T Gigabit Fiber is standard equip for your typical PS5 fankids) so I suspect this won't be so isolated.

Right. I’m bashing a peripheral that is not needed in anyway to get attention. At least I’m not playing dumb? I think you’re playing…

Okay. I'm sorry I hurt the product's feelings. We good now?

I don’t think grandma’s ok. She can’t play spiderman 2 at bingo. Lord.