VideoGame_Discussion

DrizzDrizzDrizz wrote:

Remember when these guys used to innovate gameplay? The only innovation left in AAA Studios lately (by and large, big fat stinkers from SquareEnix aside) seems to be in trying to reduce capex and maximize returns on existing property and works. You used to be able to do both!

Heavyd814life wrote:

I mean, sure, yeah. But ultimately the games they make don't interest me. RDR was pretty bad too. But since how insanely popular their games are, my boycott will do nothing

I am just waiting for RDR to get cheaper. I want to play it and the 60fps Patch on PS5 looks enticing... but not at full price.

I too love RDR games and GTA5 was fun as was their older games like Bully but I miss … the idea of Rockstar…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cx3m1ndxF93/?igshid...

Heavyd814life wrote:

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

RDR2 is great. It’s just too hard for casuals.

I don't have an issue with RS putting out older games, I do however take issue with the price that they release at, Saying that I don't believe they are milking anything. People have asked for this for awhile, sure it did not release how some wanted (remaster) but they are released on newer hardware and a newer generation of gamers can play a game that may otherwise have missed out. I wished they would have released Red Dead Revolver also. I don't care for the price, nobody is holding a gun to my head to buy it at it's full retail, they will eventually get my money but it won't nearly as much.

Did anyone else play the Iki expansion on Ghost of Tsushima? Mine is super glitchy. So far I have actually seen the programing string that ties a rider to its horse (a literal white line on screen) and saw him slingshot back to the horse, I've fallen off of the top of a mountain and just been fine, and I had a death screen after getting a pillar of honor because "A Peasant Died." Just weird all around.

Orlandu wrote:

I didn’t have any of the glitches. Did ps4 and 5.

Huh. I didn't have many glitches during the main game, mostly normal open world stuff. Is there a button combo that makes yellow Xes appear over all of the enemies heads? That seems to happen to me randomly.

Sounds like you’re in the matrix.

Sounds like you’re in (outside of?) the matrix.

Of course game developers always cared about money, but what sucks these days compared to the old days is how expensive is it to make a game so a company like Rockstar doesn't take a chance with a game like Bully 2 or new IP they just stick to what makes them the most money like GTA and RDR, not that those games are bad at all in fact they're great but still. It's not only just money, a game like GTA 6 takes 3-5 years to make now so they don't have time for the lesser games either. On PS2 we got 3 GTAs each 2 years apart while in the same generation we got two more PSP GTAs, Bully, Red Dead Revolver and Manhunt 1 and 2 and a few other games all developed by Rockstar in one generation, that is not even close to possible anymore.

So Bluepoint Games is making a game and it's not a remake this time but it is a well known series. New Uncharted makes sense to me.

justin_credible wrote:

Are they ones that did shadow of the collossus and demon's souls or someone else? My hope would be Legend of Dragoon 2!! Naughty Dog isn't going to let anyone else do Uncharted. And since Sony has given them Sony liscenses in the past. We have to think about game series that maybe have been abandoned by their previous studios.

It could be anything like Ape Escape, Legend of Dragoon 2, Jak and Daxter (now this one is definitely abandoned by naughty dog), Dark Cloud, Twisted Metal. I mean Sony has a deep bag of abandoned good IPs.

ErickRPG wrote:

How dare you put such wishful thinking into the universe. But if I remember correctly, Level-5 has been wanting to do a sequel to DC for a long time. Seems things just haven't lined up for them which sucks. At this point, I'd even take a Rogue Galaxy 2 from them

Didnt Dark Cloud 2 come out ages ago

BJB wrote:

Won’t happen. Sony owns the IPs and Level-5 isn’t what it used to be. I’d lose my mind if we got a new Dark Cloud or Rogue Galaxy, but Sony is too busy moneyhatting Final Fantasy and hasn’t cared about making JRPGs of its own in a long, long time.

ErickRPG wrote:

I thought Naughty Dog was done was Uncharted, but I would prefer they make the next Uncharted anyway. I would guess their next game is going to be Last of Us 3 but we'll see.

And yes Bluepoint remade Shadow of the Colossus and Demon's Souls. If I had my choice of which game they'd be making it'd be Shadow of the Colossus 2 probably.

I honestly just don't think they'll be a license as huge as Uncharted. If I had my choice it would definitely be The Legend of Dragoon. But my guess is it will be some sort of action game like ape escape, sly cooper, or jak & daxter.

I really want to know what Bend is making next.

Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:

I think it's a new IP, but I wish it was Days Gone 2

Yeah. I'm sad that Sony nixed Days Gone 2 as well. The story was just getting interesting.

Heavyd814life wrote:

Days Gone was my favorite of the PS4 open world games.

Loved Days Gone. Very underrated title imo.

ErickRPG wrote:

While it was on the Vita a handheld, Bend Studios made Uncharted Golden Abyss not Naughty Dog. So it's not impossible an Uncharted game could be made by a different studio than Naughty Dog.

I wonder why they never ported that game to PS4 or PS5.

Bend Studios that also did Days Gone that I also enjoyed. I thought for sure they disbanded and left Sony after Days Gone wasn't getting a sequel and the main dev bad mouthed Sony for it, but I guess they're working on something for PS5.

Orlandu wrote:

I liked it but favorite? GTA V, RDR 2, Phantom Pain, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War and Ragnarok both Horizons were all open world PS4 games.

@justin_credible Yep. I don't play GTA, RDR, or MGS games, and I enjoyed it more than the rest you listed. My order goes Days Gone, God of War, Horizon, then Ghost of Tsushima. I didn't enjoy the God of War or Horizon sequels.

Hold up, do you guys consider the God of War games open world? I haven't played Ragnarok, but God of War 2018 felt more like a game with a few open areas than an open world game. I wouldn't put it in the same bracket as Days Gone, Horizon, Spidey and Tsushima.

I consider those games, God of War 2018/Ragnarok and the new Tomb Raider trilogy as controlled open map games. Not sandbox open world. I much more prefer open map games though to sandbox. Less overwhelming. Insomniac Spider-Man games are my exception though cause those are just fun as heck to swing around Manhattan all day on your leisure just having simple fun.

Heavyd814life wrote:

I dont consider GOW "open world". I would compare the GoW world with previous Zelda Games (Ocarina, etc). Where as Breath of the Wild has an open world like AC, Horizon, etc.

I have not played the new GOWs. Are they more or less open that something like Dragon Age Inquisition. Where it's like they have open world "zones". The Zones are fairly big and fun to explore, but it's not like each zone is anywhere near as big as BOTW.

Correct. Open ended zone maps.

PS5 slim confirmed for this holiday. Looks pretty slick.

https://www.ign.com/articles/sony-confirms-ps5-sli...

Wouldn’t mind having a BD drive for my OG digital if that’s a thing.

Digital only systems are increasing by $50?

Yep.

Am I mistaken or weren't Slims usually cheaper than the original model when they came out?

You're right. The PS4 launched at $399, and the PS4 Slim launched at $299.

justin_credible wrote:

I paid $599 for a PS3 what was I thinking. As for the slim PS5, I think they should stop making the disc version and just sell the digital with optional drive. Keep it simple.

I am going to keep my space shuttle.

New Slim consoles are definitely a welcomed change since the original PS5 is so awkward and clunky...

That said I have zero plans to upgrade. Almost 3 years strong, and I don't plan on replacing my Series X or PS5 until the Series Z and PS6 respectively

I really don’t see a difference in the size. Maybe it needs to be put side by side to the original system though to see the difference.

So dumb for the slim to not have a drive and be more expensive. In the past the slim models were a cost savings to Sony to produce. So if things just cost more to make, I get it, but why did they even bother making this and not just carry on with the OG digital?

This is their crappy way of having a price increase without directly saying they’re having a price increase. Oh look new sexy design but at more money with less incentives. Look at the shiny keys! Meh. Next they’ll do a disc slim with no SSD for $549.

There will be a “shortage” and this thing will sell like hot cakes.

A completely and totally non-manufactured self made shortage.

Yessir.

justin_credible wrote:

Well yeah, but why do that when you can charge more and then upcharge the upgrade path moving forward?

In all seriousness the bluray drive being modular is actually huge. So many PS3s (and I'm presuming PS4s) just end up in the junkyard when the optical drive takes a crap. Now, presuming Sony continues manufacturing them, you can just swap in a new one as needed because the system was designed to let you do that. Actually gigantic.

So far my PS5 is working perfectly so no need to buy that. It didnt change much either. I was expecting it to be cheaper than the current though.
IMO $400 would have been a good price for holidays.

But what do I know....people will buy it anyway.

I wonder if the Pro model will revert to the size of the original PS5.

It’ll be bigger if it’s like the PS4 Pro compared to the regular PS4.

Anxiouz wrote:

To be fair, Sony has been making a lot of anti-consumer pro corporation decisions as of late. Need I remind everyone of the recent PS+ price hike?

Anyone played Oxenfree II yet? Honestly didn't think I'd play another game this year after spending 200 hours with Baldur's Gate 3, but I'm really in the mood to play an adventure game today.

So tempting...

https://dbrand.com/shop/special-edition/retro-dark...

https://youtu.be/QQKDvss-sFk

I kinda like that Ice Blue color. Reminds me of the Ice Blue Nintendo64 that I wanted but could never get my hands on. I won't spend $70 on those things though, it feels overpriced for what it is.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Oh it's absolutely n64 inspired. The Facebook ad I saw had Mario music and quotes in it.

Using a combo of blue and orange looks sweet.

Agreed, it's a bit pricey. You also gotta get the lights, so it makes it $100.

Some solid marketing

https://fb.watch/nJEEk7jkhl/?mibextid=Nif5oz

Do you guys think there's any chance of the Spiderman dualsense coming back into stock anywhere? Would love one but seems like maybe that's it, since the game is out now

I think it’ll come back in a few weeks or a month. If it stays in stock is a different question altogether, though.

I’m thinking about getting that DualSense Edge controller. $200 is STEEP but if it’s anywhere near as good as the Xbox Elite, I’m probably going to jump at some point. Anyone here have or use one?

BucketofJustice wrote:

Same boat, been waiting for the edge. Either a deal, or a different color (would really like a black or blue one).

I didn’t even think of different colors. That sounds great. I’d totally grab a pink or black one to go with my regular black or pink DualSense controllers. It’d also be cool if they would do the whole customization thing like Microsoft does, because that’s a great idea. I don’t know if it makes a ton of money for them, but I love the idea.

Spider-Man 2 is pretty impressive so far. The first boss fight was really well done. Somehow, the traversal is even better than before (which didn’t seem possible).

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I take back everything I said. This development is literally retarded. I cannot imagine what they were thinking, other than "Well this won't be immediately obvious by looking at it and eventually people will forget that this physical medium drive is still technically DRM, so it's fine"

Physical-only Andys get precisely what they deserve. I'm out of sympathy, you're being played by LRG, you're being played by Sony, you're being played by everyone.

Calm down buddy. It's probably a firmware update or something to prevent naughty people from doing naughty, anti copyright stuff to it.

They're doing it so people don't insert hacked bluray drives into the system but the result is the same. Once the servers are down, this is a brick to hold your door open. A $550 brick in this case. With 30% less volume than the system that will end up working longer.

The only upside is now on a timer. The end result is purely negative. If you're buying physical PS5/PS4 games to play them after the servers are down, you should never be buying a slimline system. Drive is now a temporary media interface.

Is this the same update for PS5 fat disc models too? Or slim only?

Just slim, fat models don't have removable drives so they don't need to police anything.

If this is all true then the PS5 fat disc models will become valuable gems. Time to hold onto those for dear life.

Damn this is serious.

Game preservation for ps4 gen onwards is a joke anyways since all games require updates. They may even need system updates as well. LRG is a scam.

The funny thing is if they can reprint the code on physical media then it’s preserved already.

A generation or two out will never be able to go back and play this era of games via physical media. They're future proofing themselves for ongoing digital sales and re-releasing games 32 times. Basically, catching up with Nintendo.

Day 1 patches effectively prevent totally offline preservation outside of piracy.

Orlandu wrote:

Most games are unplayable/extremely broken without patches. I just prefer discs over digital for consoles cause the sales aren't nearly as good as Steam.

Nintendo I think is the exception where digital is much better price than carts

Sony has never been excited about BC or preserving previous gen experiences on new systems. PS2 couldn't play all PSX titles, PS3 was only BC for a little while, PS4 wasn't at all, and PS5 feels like it sloppily shoe-horned it in only because MS made such a big deal about it.

If a PS5 Pro comes out and no longer played PS4 discs, I honestly wouldn't be surprised. I also wouldn't be terribly interested.

Yeah I’m a physical guy unless I get a really good deal on a digital game.

I'll buy digital if it's a $10 or less console game (not worth resale), or if it's a game I will play a ton over time like Diablo 3. Most of the games I play are one and done, so resale value is important. If digital games had transferrable licenses I probably would stop buying physical.

I'm not a huge Alan Wake fan but I would like to play AW2. But there is zero chance I'm going to do $60 (digital only) for it.

Anxiouz wrote:

Yeah I didn't like seeing that they were making a semi major game like that digital only. Hope it's not a trend.

They said it’s to keep costs down from $70 by going all digital for AW2. I think personally that’s a cop out. $70 games are just morbidly obese. They drop in price like a month or two post launch anyway below $60. Mortal Kombat 1 is already below $60 on Amazon for example. It’s all a sham to squeeze as much sales as possible in the first couple of months me thinks.