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I finally bought and played Sifu a few weeks ago (when it was on sale). I absolutely love this game. I finally beat the final boss last night after days of trying, but now I have to go back and do it again. What a great game!

benstylus wrote:

There is no cow level!

Skull and Bones.

Played the beta. Yikes. It looks pretty bad, controls terribly and even sounds pretty bad. The gameplay loop feels like the division or other simpler hub based Mp games. You have to chop down trees (from the boat via a … mini game?!) and collect the stuff needed to make a boat. Then you need to make cannons, defense etc. finally you go out to sea and pretty simplistic combat akin to AC IV happens. It was an addictive loop but very shallow. The on foot stuff was very simplistic and mostly just to walk to quests and vendors. Didn’t experience any combat or platforming- not even sure you can jump?

I don’t see myself playing this especially at 70$. This should be free or very cheap to allow for the myriad in game currencies that are inevitably in the pipeline.

This will scratch that itch for gamers that like a highly repeatable online experience like the division, otherwise I’d recommend hard pass here. WTF do they do for 10 years developing this?!

Feeb wrote:

So short version, go play literally any version of Sid Meier's Pirates for a better experience? Duly noted. I think I still have the Wii version.

When Ubisoft said they wanted to get people used to the idea of not owning games, maybe they just meant we were going to make them so bad you won't buy then, and therefore won't own them.

It’s a boat fighting game. The rest is just useless filler. If you want to spend hours fighting boats jump in before the servers close next year…

Yeah. I played the closed beta, and I disliked it so much that I cancelled my pre-order after about 10 minutes.

Feeb wrote:

I’d play it for free or maybe 19.99- but my biggest concern is lifespan and user base. Feels like it will be dead in the water (awesome pirate pun) and the servers will be short lived.

Feeb wrote:


Well I have no idea what the lifespan will be, but being that it's a Ubisoft game it'll be down to $19.99 in no time.

Sucks to hear that it's not so good. I've had my eye on it since E3 2018 and keep including it on my list in that Fantasy Gaming League thread.

There is no chance Skull & Bones does well given how long it's been in dev hell and how much the internet loves to see things like that fail. Even if it's good it's not going to do well. Especially with the announcement that AC: Black Flag is being remastered/remade. Everyone is just going to go play that.

Ubisoft just needs to pivot from live service to making games like Prince of Persia great again like it just did. And making Ass. Creed games a 20 hour maximum journey again with ones like Mirage. Just stop trying to make live service happen. It’s not going to happen.

I am really disappointed about Skull and Bones.

Ys X Fall 2024.

https://nisamerica.com/ys-x/?utm_source=NISA+Onlin...

That game looks great. Always enjoy the Ys series.

I can't put down Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth, and I'm getting more and more to where I can't pick up a controller to start playing a game, but yet this one I can't stop. It's fantastic.

Sony says PS5 entering latter stage of it's life cycle? I don't like to hear that at all. Do we really need a PS6 with BETTER GRAPHICS OMG and the budget for big games are usually over 200 million now why not jack them up to 3 or 4 hundred then they'll lay off a bunch of employees because they can't seem to make a profit for some reason, and only the strongest sales will survive so casual gamers end up having way too much say on which games we get. Yawn

https://www.ign.com/articles/ps5-entering-the-latt...

Believe it or not, it's already well into in its fourth year since launch.

I think the bigger problem is they spent the first year not selling any systems due to the chip shortages, and the second year making PS4 games with slight PS5 enhancements. It hasn't really been until this last year that the "real" PS5 games have started releasing.

That's pretty annoying considering I just dropped money for a PS5 expecting to have the current gen for at least a few years considering it only just released in 2020.

theJaw wrote:

I mean it won't be this year or next year but 2026 is possible. I was hoping it would be end of 2027 but they're disappointed in the sales of PS5 this past year and I'm sure they're concerned that Nintendo will be a generation ahead of them with Switch 2.

justin_credible wrote:

Judging by Nintendo's previous successful strategy of not participating in a hardware arm's race, I think the Swutch's specs will be far more modest than the PS5.

Highly unlikely Switch 2 will compete wirg Steam Deck, hardware wise.

In this case it's not about graphics it's about parents Christmas shopping and seeing a shiny new Nintendo system for their kids to buy passing over the PS5 that is suddenly older.

benstylus wrote:


I missed this but it won't be 4 years until November of this year. You can't count 2020 as a full year because it didn't come out until November.

This is how old PS5 is exactly today.

Result: 1188 days
It is 1188 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.

Or 3 years, 3 months, 1 day excluding the end date.

Or 39 months, 1 day excluding the end date.

justin_credible wrote:

That actually isn't what Sony said at all. The media is misconstruing what was said to drive clicks.

The actual statement said that "at the end of this fiscal year it will be 4 years since release", and then "it will head into its fifth year, which will be the start of the later stages of its life cycle". "Where we expect sales to start to delcine".

Yet somehow ever outlet turned this into "its already in the later stages of its life cycle". And "its losing money now". Because people are morons.

In case anyone actually cares to read the report by Sony: https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen...

It’s also interesting to see how there will be no new major (meaning untimed owned and made by PS Studios) Sony PS5 exclusives until mid next year I was reading.

justin_credible wrote:

yup, it's awesome. I take it you are probably further than me? I just did the first crazy delivery segment.

TalonJedi87 wrote:

I don’t think that’s the case. They were referring to major existing IP (God of War, Horizon, Spider-Man, Tsushima etc). Doesn’t refer to new IP or smaller existing franchises like the rumored Astro Bot game.

Archer wrote:

It’s pretty wild. Same thing with the Xbox stuff last week with the whole Xbox is dead narrative which was just idiotic. They either intentionally misrepresent stuff or just run with every rumor to drive clicks. I guess it’s the sad reality of media today.

Heavyd814life wrote:

It's different with Xbox because it really is dead.

Proof:
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Aren’t they having a talk today?

Feeb wrote:

Yeah, pretty much to tell people stop beveling every random tweet you read. Because that is where all this started. "News articles" were written based off a random tweet. And it spread mass crazy nonsense. And then the dude admitted he made it all up after being called out by several xbox employees. This is the state of media today. Someone says a joke or makes something up and everyone runs with it claiming its a fact. Or they use their emotional opinion on something as fact. It console wars being taken to an extreme. And its crazy.

Archer wrote:

The saddest part is that all we are and ever will be is $ signs to these corporations. They aren't your buddies. Their job is to extract as much money from you as possible. The sooner everyone realizes that that's the dynamic at play here, the better it'll be for everyone. And yet you have grown ass men losing their crap because some rando on Twitter said Xbox might port some games or something and somehow that means Xbox is dead. You take a step back and really look at it all and at the way the gaming media feeds the frenzy and how emotionally invested people are in these companies they don't even own shares in...it's honestly really insane and it feels like it's worse now than it has ever been.

Heavyd814life wrote:


I think developers need to read this post just as much as consumers.

People are taken advantage of again and again because of their passion for gaming.

justin_credible wrote:


That did nothing to help Wii U when it just hit store shelves against PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 which were already available for 6 and 7 years by that point.

Not to venture too far off topic, but this isn't like the 70s and 80s or even 90s anymore. When Wii U used to have those commercials where the children would have to perform this whole song and dance to convince their parents to buy them a Wii U, those were so cringe. I guess nobody informed Nintendo's marketing team that by the 2010s a lot of parents have grown up playing video games themselves, they're not so clueless anymore like the old days

PS4 is still pretty healthy.

Archer wrote:


I don't know I think there is some truth to all this. Either that or Phil is a PR dumb dumb. If this was all fake then he should have said something then instead of watching things burn and do damage to the brand... and it did damage. if MS wants GP to be the thing, there business model absolutely needs to adapt, there is no other way. They want to be the netflix of gaming, well how well would Neflix have done if it was tied to only Samsung TV's and smart Blu-Ray players and nothing else? It's why Apple TV is on competing devices these services need to be on as many devices as possible. You can talk about cloud gaming and that sure is an option but I don't know about you but I MUCH prefer being able to download the software and playing it locally. If you want GP on everything it then makes absolutely NO sense to make a competing console.

- What third party is going to support a console that probably won't sell enough to make it worth it? When they see the company making it not putting full wait behind it themselves?
- Nintendo and Sony WILL NOT allow GP on there consoles in it's current form. This one is absolutely a HUGE sticking point.
- Like the one above, GP will have to change how it operates. Primarily 1st party games on GP for Nintendo and Sony and no third party. Not saying it can't have, but they may have to wait 6 months to a year so they don't leach sales on the competing platforms. Then of course MS could still always do
GP exclusives. GP would just have to change.

GP will fail if it does not branch out. I don't think that is lost on MS and it's just foolish to think otherwise. The very model itself requires growth! Or you run the very real risk of choking off your install base with increased sub prices.

That's my take on GP.... What MS plans to do? who knows, I don't think they know. They have not been instilling confidence lately and it's a clown show right now. I do believe some games will go multi plat. Sea of Thieves is a no brainer IMO it's live service would make absolute sense.. having a live service game pinned down to PC and the Xbox is not smart, that's why I think eventually the Halo that goes multi platform is Halo Infinite's multiplayer. Also heard something else and it makes sense also but it was putting some games multi platform only in Japan. Games that would do really well like HI-FI Rush they simply don't get traction because the console itself just does not sell well. It would be a way for MS to finally gain traction in Japan,


* Forgot to add this, but as far as new hardware goes the only thing that makes sense would be a Xbox handheld. Possibly, there are somethings that make less sense like the GP on PC but maybe this would offer a better way to play MS games on the go. I would give that a go for sure.

Finn wrote:

Any business model that requires constant growth just to survive is basically a ponzi scheme.

There has got to be a point of sustainability somewhere, and MS needs to know where that is. Nothing they have done has given me confidence that they have a good roadmap for making gamepass sustainable. So far it's just been to keep throwing money at it and hoping.



It they go handheld, it's 100% going to be a streaming centered device. I don't think the infrastructure for Gamepass Everywhere is quite there yet, but I feel like it will be within the decade, or maybe early 2030s.


Ok boomer.
~ Xbox Gamepass Execs

@Finn I don't know, dude. They'll pivot and they'll be fine. The ABK deal means that the gaming sector has leapfrogged Windows. So now it isn't some small passion project. It's a really important part of MS's business and they want to see growth and ROI. If Gamepass stagnates, they'll put games on more platforms to make more money. And contrary to what they internet would have you believe, putting games on Switch 2 and PS5 isn't the end of the world. It's like Sony putting games on PC and trying to make live service games. It's all about making more $$. And if that doesn't work they'll just buy more publishers and become the biggest publisher in the world because we know these regulators won't do a damn thing about it even if all this consolidation inevitably leads to thousands of people losing their jobs.

And if that doesn't work, they'll just buy Japan and finally win gaming!

Heavyd814life wrote:



I know your joking but there is no way they buy Japan. It would never fly. Japan is not big on foreign ownership of big Japan companies. If they could have they would hav by now.


It's totally not the end of the world. The best Thing MS could do is go multi platform. That is there absolute best path. But a company that puts its own games on other consoles simply won't work and won't offer enough to stay with it. Makes just to cut it off and make that pivot. I would love to see MS as the king publisher.

Yeah my nose is telling me MS becomes a top tier publisher for multi platform consoles and devices. Even though Phil Spencer said they have no plans anytime soon to stop making consoles at this time, that tune may change in the years to come when they see how much more beneficial it would be to have all their newly acquired IPs on all platforms wherever possible. And I think the only way to achieve that is to halt console production in say a future console generation and pivot solely towards software sales. The Xbox only fanboys will get over it in time. They’ll be able to play all the MS games they want on a future Sony/Nintendo console or on PC, Steam etc.. Then again, MS does still have more money than God, so if they wish to keep expending capital to pay for consoles that sell but don’t make them turn that much of a profit so be it. I’m sure it’s a sneeze to them anyway at this point in time.

ErickRPG wrote:

Yeah I got 25 hours into it I'm on Chapter 6.

I just got off this place called Dondoku Island you're trying to rebuild this resort I got hooked on it usually I hate building things in games but I got into it and you get a good amount of money for building it up but it takes awhile. From what I read you'll either want to do it (you have to for a certain amount of time but you may want to stay and build it up to at least a 3 star resort from 0) or you can use this dungeon you'll also go to but the problem with that is you'll overlevel and enemies will be too easy. Those are the two ways I've read to make a lot of money and you'll need it eventually. My armor and weapons are really good right now but there's even more expensive of both I can't afford still.