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Heavyd814life
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* 9-Dec-2023(#1)
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The 2024 GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League

1. SilverOwl Current Total: 747


Top 10:
1. Alone in the Dark - 62
2. Black Myth: Wukong
3. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
4. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
6. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
7. Outcast - A New Beginning - 69
8. Persona 3 Reload - 90
9. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
10. Tekken 8 - 90

Alternates:
1. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - 62


3. BloodPuppetX Current Total: 676


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes - 76
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
4. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81
5. Little Nightmares III
6. New 3D Mario
7. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
8. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
9. Under Night In Birth II - 85
10. Unicorn Overlord - 88

Alternates:
1. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77


4. Jim269 Current Total: 672


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes - 76
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
4. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81
5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
6. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
7. Rise of the Ronin - 76
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
8. Tekken 8 - 90
10. Visions of Mana

Alternates:
1. Alone in the Dark - 62
2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77


2. Heavyd814life Current Total: 607


Top 10:
1. Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons - 81
2. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
4. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
5. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Rise of the Ronin - 76
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
10. Unicorn Overlord - 88

Alternates:
1. Helldivers 2 - 82
2. Tekken 8 - 90


9. Shane12m Current Total: 602


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes - 76
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
4. Hollow Knight: Silksong
5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
6. Metaphor: ReFantazio
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Rise of the Ronin - 76
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
10. Unicorn Overlord - 88

Alternates:
1. Avowed
2. Tekken 8 - 90


12. Lunar Current Total: 597


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes - 76
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
4. Hades II
5. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
6. Metaphor: ReFantazio
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Rise of the Ronin - 76
9. Stellar Blade - 83
10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Alternates:
1. Black Myth: Wukong
2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77


5. Hum Current Total: 584


Top 10:
1. Avowed
2. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
4. Helldivers 2 - 82
5. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
8. Rise of the Ronin - 76
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
10. Tekken 8 - 90

Alternates:
1. Skull and Bones - 60
2. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl


6. TalonJedi87 Current Total: 562


Top 10:
1. Black Myth: Wukong
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
5. Persona 3 Reload - 90
6. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
7. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
8. Rise of the Ronin - 76
9. Silent Hill 2
10. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - 62

Alternates:
1. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
2. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II


7. benstylus Current Total: 544


Top 10:
1. Another Code: Recollection - 74
2. Arzette: The Jewel of Faramore - 76
3. Contra: Operation Galuga - 75
4. Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time
5. Penny’s Big Breakaway - 77
6. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
7. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
8. Shadow of the Ninja Reborn
9. Shantae Advance: Risky Revolution
10. Ufouria: The Saga 2 - 78

Alternates:
1. Littlelands
2. Truxton Extreme


8. Ryan Current Total: 528


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
3. Frostpunk 2
4. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
5. Metaphor: ReFantazio
6. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Rise of the Ronin - 76
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
10. Tekken 8 - 90

Alternates:
1. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
2. The Plucky Squire


10. Bleed_DukeBlue Current Total: 519


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
3. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81
4. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
5. Metaphor: ReFantazio
6. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Rise of the Ronin - 76
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2
10. The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak

Alternates:
1. Little Nightmares III
2. Tekken 8 - 90


15. Sefjwm Current Total: 508


Top 10:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
2. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81
3. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
5. Metroid Prime 4
6. Mina the Hollower
7. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
8. Tales of Kenzera: Zau - 77
9. Tekken 8 - 90
10. The Plucky Squire

Alternates:
1. Helldivers 2 - 82
2. Unicorn Overlord - 88


11. Frank Current Total: 440


Top 10:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
2. Hollow Knight: Silksong
3. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
5. Metroid Prime 4
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Star Wars Outlaws
10. Tekken 8 - 90

Alternates:
1. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
2. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl


13. DemonAlcohol Current Total: 435


Top 10:
1. Avowed
2. Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden - 82
3. Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons - 81
4. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
5. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
6. Frostpunk 2
7. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
8. Hollow Knight: Silksong
9. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
10. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

Alternates:
1. Homeworld 3 - 80
2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77


14. Thatfootballguy Current Total: 434


Top 10:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
2. Granblue Fantasy: Relink - 81
3. Hades II
4. Helldivers 2 - 82
5. Hollow Knight: Silksong
6. Metaphor: ReFantazio
7. Metroid Prime 4
8. New 3D Mario
9. Tekken 8 - 90
10. Unicorn Overlord - 88

Alternates:
1. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes - 76
2. New Mainline Pokemon


16. Scott Current Total: 426


Top 10:
1. Black Myth: Wukong
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
5. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
6. Persona 3 Reload - 90
7. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
8. Rise of the Ronin - 76
9. Silent Hill 2
10. Tekken 8 - 90

Alternates:
1. Animal Well - 89
2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77


17. Boss Current Total: 425


Top 10:
1. Decapolice
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
3. Hades II
4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
5. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Persona 3 Reload - 90
8. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
9. The Wolf Among Us 2
10. Unicorn Overlord - 88

Alternates:
1. Contra: Operation Galuga - 75
2. Silent Hill 2


19. Zidimo Current Total: 425


Top 10:
1. Earthblade
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes - 76
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
4. Frostpunk 2
5. Jurassic Park: Survival
6. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90
7. Mewgenics
8. Rise of the Ronin - 76
9. Tekken 8 - 90
10. The Wolf Among Us 2

Alternates:
1. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
2. Star Wars Outlaws


20. Incubus421 Current Total: 424


Top 10:
1. Black Myth: Wukong
2. Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes - 76
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
4. Hades II
5. Nightingale
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
8. Tekken 8 - 90
9. Unicorn Overlord - 88
10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Alternates:
1. Hollow Knight: Silksong
2. Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2


18. Archer Current Total: 397


Top 10:
1. Avowed
2. Black Myth: Wukong
3. Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons - 81
4. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
5. Fable
6. Persona 3 Reload - 90
7. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2
9. Skull and Bones - 60
10. The First Descendant

Alternates:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
2. Rise of the Ronin - 76


21. Bogo Current Total: 346


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. Metroid Prime 4
5. New 2D Zelda
6. New F-Zero
7. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
8. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
9. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
10. Star Wars Outlaws

Alternates:
1. Homeworld 3 - 80
2. Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - 90


22. Nonamesleft Current Total: 333


Top 10:
1. Antonblast
2. Contra: Operation Galuga - 75
3. Earthblade
4. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
5. Hades II
6. Hollow Knight: Silksong
7. Metroid Prime 4
8. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
9. Star Wars Outlaws
10. Unicorn Overlord - 88

Alternates:
1. Metaphor: ReFantazio
2. Neva


23. Sailorneorune Current Total: 329


Top 10:
1. Another Code: Recollection - 74
2. Decapolice
3. Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time
4. Little Nightmares III
5. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
6. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
7. Tekken 8 - 90
8. The Plucky Squire
9. Unicorn Overlord - 88
10. Visions of Mana

Alternates:
1. Cat Quest III
2. Metaphor ReFantazio


24. Tonymack21 Current Total: 327


Top 10:
1. Avowed
2. Black Myth: Wukong
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
4. Hades II
5. Homeworld 3 - 80
6. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
7. Metaphor: ReFantazio
8. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
9. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
10. Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2

Alternates:
1. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
2. Rise of the Ronin - 76


25. PizzaTheHutt Current Total: 309


Top 10:
1. Behemoth
2. Contra: Operation Galuga - 75
3. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
4. Little Kitty, Big City - 78
5. Little Nightmares III
6. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
7. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
8. Silent Hill 2
9. South Park: Snow Day - 63
10. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

Alternates:
1. Skull and Bones - 60
2. World Of Goo 2


26. SupremeSarna Current Total: 260


Top 10:
1. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
2. Hades II
3. Hollow Knight: Silksong
4. New Kirby
5. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
6. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
7. Shantae Advance: Risky Revolution
8. Tekken 8 - 90
9. Visions of Mana
10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Alternates:
1. Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 77
2. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - 62


27. Bonham2 Current Total: 258


Top 10:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
3. Hades II
4. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
5. New 3D Mario
6. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7. Rise of the Ronin - 76
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Star Wars Outlaws
10. Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Alternates:
1. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
2. Tekken 8 - 90


28. Mattyg00013 Current Total: 257


Top 10:
1. Avowed
2. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - 93
3. Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
4. Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
5. New 3D Mario
6. Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - 87
7. Princess Peach: Showtime - 77
8. Senua's Saga: Hellblade II
9. Silent Hill 2
10. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

Alternates:
1. Dragon's Dogma 2 - 89
2. Rise of the Ronin - 76




Upcoming Releases:


January:
Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown - January 18
Another Code: Recollection - January 19
Under Night In Birth II - January 25
Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth - January 26
Tekken 8 - January 26

February:
Granblue Fantasy: Relink - February 1
Persona 3 Reload - February 2
Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - February 2
Helldivers 2 - February 8
Arzette: The Jewel of Faramore - February 13
Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden - February 13
Mario vs. Donkey Kong - February 16
Skull and Bones - February 16
Penny's Big Breakaway - February 21
Nightingale - February 22
Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons - February 28
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - February 29
Ufouria: The Saga 2 - February 29

March:
Unicorn Overlord - March 8
Contra: Operation Galuga - March 12
Outcast: A New Beginning - March 15
Alone in the Dark - March 20
Dragon's Dogma 2 - March 22
Princess Peach: Showtime - March 22
Rise of the Ronin - March 22
South Park: Snow Day - March 26

April:
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes - April 23
Tales of Kenzera: Zau - April 23
Stellar Blade - April 26

May:
Homeworld 3 - May 13
Senua's Saga: Hellblade II - May 21
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - May 23
World Of Goo 2 - May 23

July:
Frostpunk 2 - July 25

August:
Black Myth: Wukong - August 20

September:
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl - September 5
Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 - September 9

October:
Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time - October 10
Metaphor: ReFantazio - October 11


League Overview:


Welcome to Year 7 of the GameTZ Fantasy Gaming League! This is basically fantasy football with games. Each person picks 10 games and those 10 games make up your "team" for the year. The OpenCritic scores for your 10 games are tallied up at the end of the year to determine your total. Highest overall score wins. You also get 2 alternate picks (these should be safe choices) just in case one of your picks gets delayed into 2025. So if you shoot for the moon with a game like Marvel's Wolverine and it gets pushed into 2025, one of your alternates takes its place and you don't end up with 0 points for that game. The goal is to pick games that you think have a very good chance of releasing in 2024. Don't YOLO your way into a bunch of 0s lol.

The Rules:
1. No DLC or Expansions
2. No Ports or Remasters (full remakes are allowed)
3. Alternate picks can only replace games delayed into 2025. They cannot be used to replace games in your top 10 that review poorly.

The Prizes:
1st Place: A $100 Amazon Gift Card
2nd Place: A $20 Amazon Gift Card
3rd Place: A $10 Amazon Gift Card

The Participants:
1. Heavyd814life
2. TalonJedi87
3. Jim269
4. Archer
5. PizzaTheHutt
6. SupremeSarna
7. Zidimo
8. Frank
9. Ryan
10. Incubus421
11. SilverOwl
12. Shane12m
13. Bleed_DukeBlue
14. BloodPuppetX
15. Bonham2
16. Sailorneorune
17. benstylus
18. Boss
19. DemonAlcohol
20. Sefjwm
21. Lunar
22. Thatfootballguy
23. Bogo
24. Mattyg00013
25. Hum
26. Tonymack21
27. Nonamesleft
28. Scott

Previous Winners:
2023: Shane12m
2022: Heavyd814life
2021: Ryan
2020: Mattyg00013 and Roko
2019: Heavyd814life
2018: Heavyd814life

Submit Your Picks Here: https://tally.so/r/n0ego0
Deadline: January 14, 2024 at 11:59pm




TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
3-Feb(#2)
A super kamehameha bullet sir.
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
3-Feb(#3)
Scott wrote:
> I was so close to putting Suicide Squad on my list...dodged a bullet there.

Yeah I debated having it on my list or my backup. Put it on my backup and then took it off a few days later lol…phew
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 3-Feb(#4)
You all chose wisely. I on the other hand, did not. But it’s all good. One year I’ll wise up and vote with my head instead of my heart.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
3-Feb(#5)
Nah man, so much more fulfilling to go by heart/gut.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
3-Feb(#6)
You’re right. It’s also why I can never breach the top 5 in these rankings haha
Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
3-Feb(#7)
It’s cool. I did that with Horizon: Call of the Mountain last year and it probably cost me a shot at the top spot, but I don’t regret it. I still think it’s an underrated game.

TalonJedi87 wrote:
> You all chose wisely. I on the other hand, did not. But it’s all good. One year
> I’ll wise up and vote with my head instead of my heart.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
3-Feb(#8)
Yeah it happens. I’m just more like boo since it’s my 2nd year guessing something with either a low ish score or missing something completely and guessing wrong. Like in 2022 I thought God of War Ragnarok was gonna miss the year completely and get delayed to 2023 like most other games due to the pandemic yet it slid in a month or two before 2022 wrapped. Still kicking myself for that one since I’m such a die hard GOW fan.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
3-Feb(#9)
Yeah, I did that was Helldivers 2 this year. But only as an alt. I can't wait for it and I just have a feeling it'll review really well. I was surprised to see it on 3 other lists. I thought I'd be the only one.

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
3-Feb(#10)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> Yeah it happens. I’m just more like boo since it’s my 2nd year guessing something
> with either a low ish score or missing something completely and guessing wrong. Like
> in 2022 I thought God of War Ragnarok was gonna miss the year completely and get
> delayed to 2023 like most other games due to the pandemic yet it slid in a month
> or two before 2022 wrapped. Still kicking myself for that one since I’m such a
> die hard GOW fan.

That's what I did last year with Spider-Man 2. I really thought it would get pushed to 2024 for sure so I left it off my list. Regret that one big time.

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 3-Feb(#11)
Oh bummer dude. Guess that happens to all of us at one point!
Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
5-Feb(#12)
So, I started Suicide Squad tonight, and, while I was getting bad Gotham Knights vibes at first, once I got past the tutorial stuff and into the story, it hooked me. It looks good, the traversal is decent once you get used to it, the combat is more my cup of tea than the Arkham games, and the story is actually pretty solid so far. Potential downsides: no real enemy variety so far, and some of the dialogue is really cringy, although it’s growing on me a bit. Captain Boomerang is fun to play as but super annoying anytime he speaks. Still, it’s fun so far.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
* 5-Feb(#13)
Okay guys OP updated with scores for Suicide Squad. It's at 62 on OpenCritic from 30 reviews

https://opencritic.com/game/14351/suicide-squad-ki...

Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
* 5-Feb(#14)
Not that I have any stake in it, but I for sure thought it would jump up to a 70 with more reviews. Good game (as in R.I.P.) for anyone who picked it. Its hard to come back from a low 60's score. Especially with the bangers that have already dropped this year. And honestly even a low 70's score will be hard to come back from this year again just like last it seems.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
7-Feb(#15)
Suicide squad now down to a 59 from 54 reviews.

Has anyone here played it? Is it really that bad a game?
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
7-Feb(#16)
Archer wrote:
> Suicide squad now down to a 59 from 54 reviews.
>
> Has anyone here played it? Is it really that bad a game?

No. I’m 14 hours in and loving it. Had super low expectations though. Also, I’m not a huge DC or superhero fan and don’t read comics or anything. Also, only beat Arkham Asylum (played the other two but didn’t finish). The story is a ton of fun and legit funny at times. I think too many people are upset it’s not what they wanted them to make.
Frank
GameTZ Subscriber 800 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) Has Written 11 Reviews Secret Santa
* 7-Feb(#17)
Shane12m wrote:
> Archer wrote:
>> Suicide squad now down to a 59 from 54 reviews.
>>
>> Has anyone here played it? Is it really that bad a game?
>
> No. I’m 14 hours in and loving it. Had super low expectations though. Also, I’m
> not a huge DC or superhero fan and don’t read comics or anything. Also, only beat
> Arkham Asylum (played the other two but didn’t finish). The story is a ton of fun
> and legit funny at times. I think too many people are upset it’s not what they
> wanted them to make.

That's my thoughts. I'm holding off for a sale or for it to hit either Game Pass / an upcoming Humble Bundle. The game seems like a fun experience if taken on its own.

I think everyone's upset because this is the same studio that brought us 3 AMAZING Batman Arkham games. I think if this had been released by a subsidiary, similar to Arkham Origins, the reception would have been better.

Ironically, Gotham Knights sort of proves that theory. It has a 67% on Metacritic, yet from what I've heard, it runs somewhat poorly on console. Where-as from what I've heard, Suicide Squad runs really well.
Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
* 7-Feb(#18)
I agree with @Shane12m. It’s better than the reviews. I like the combat a lot better than the combat in the Arkham games, the graphics are solid, and the story is interesting so far. The only things I don’t like are the lack of enemy variety and the sometimes cringy dialogue. Also, Captain Boomerang grates on my nerves despite being really fun to play as. I’m only 4 hours in, but, as of now, I’d probably give it a 7/10. It’s a fun game to just pick up and play for a mission or two.

(For context, I should also note that I really didn’t like Gotham Knights.)
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
7-Feb(#19)
Bleed_DukeBlue wrote:
> I agree with @Shane12m. It’s better than the reviews. I like the combat a lot
> better than the combat in the Arkham games, the graphics are solid, and the story
> is interesting so far. The only things I don’t like are the lack of enemy variety
> and the sometimes cringy dialogue. Also, Captain Boomerang grates on my nerves
> despite being really fun to play as. I’m only 4 hours in, but, as of now, I’d
> probably give it a 7/10. It’s a fun game to just pick up and play for a mission
> or two.
>
> (For context, I should also note that I really didn’t like Gotham Knights.)

Boomerang is definitely annoying and not funny but I don’t think he’s meant to be as the other characters make fun of him a lot lol.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 7-Feb(#20)
I played through Gotham Knights after getting it on a deep sale for like $30. It was ok, but way more fun coop with a friend. It had an ok story. Pretty repetitive though and the framerate at times was ROUGH. Mandatory 30fps in the modern era is just not very sexy.

And I’ll get Suicide Squad when it too hits that $30 mark. You betrayed us for the last time Admiral WB and I’m not paying full price for your live servicey crap.
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
7-Feb(#21)
Helldivers 2 comes out tomorrow. Reviews gonna drop tomorrow?
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
8-Feb(#22)
Shane12m wrote:
> Helldivers 2 comes out tomorrow. Reviews gonna drop tomorrow?

Doesn't look like they sent out early review codes for this one which is always a little worrying. But I played it for about an hour this morning and it's fantastic! It'll be interesting to see how it reviews.

sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
* 8-Feb(#23)
I think this one they were waiting on turning on servers and didn't bother with pre-release. Don't have it on my list but hope it's good.

Sounds like the PC port is struggling for people :(
nonamesleft
Double Gold Good Trader
9-Feb(#24)
The gameplay I watched of Helldivers 2 reminds me of firefight mode in Halo 3 ODST. (You team up with someone and see how many aliens that spawn in you can defeat.)
Frank
GameTZ Subscriber 800 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) Has Written 11 Reviews Secret Santa
9-Feb(#25)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> I played through Gotham Knights after getting it on a deep sale for like $30. It
> was ok, but way more fun coop with a friend. It had an ok story. Pretty repetitive
> though and the framerate at times was ROUGH. Mandatory 30fps in the modern era is
> just not very sexy.
>
> And I’ll get Suicide Squad when it too hits that $30 mark. You betrayed us for
> the last time Admiral WB and I’m not paying full price for your live servicey crap.
>

I picked up Gotham Knights recently. I hope I'll still be able to enjoy it single-player. I haven't been able to convince anyone else to buy it raspberry
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
9-Feb(#26)
Frank wrote:
> TalonJedi87 wrote:
>> I played through Gotham Knights after getting it on a deep sale for like $30.
> It
>> was ok, but way more fun coop with a friend. It had an ok story. Pretty repetitive
>> though and the framerate at times was ROUGH. Mandatory 30fps in the modern era
> is
>> just not very sexy.
>>
>> And I’ll get Suicide Squad when it too hits that $30 mark. You betrayed us for
>> the last time Admiral WB and I’m not paying full price for your live servicey
> crap.
>>
>
> I picked up Gotham Knights recently. I hope I'll still be able to enjoy it single-player.
> I haven't been able to convince anyone else to buy it raspberry

I finish every game I start. But Gotham Knights broke me. I couldn't do it. It's just soooo boring. Also worst Batgirl ever!

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
10-Feb(#27)
Yeah I would have likely given up on Gotham Knights too if I didn’t have a friend to play with to get me thru it. The repetitiveness and redundancy was just too much to bear. It’s a shame though. It had such potential to have a compelling story but it shat the bed liquid diarrhea like.
incubus421
450 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
10-Feb(#28)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Shane12m wrote:
>> Helldivers 2 comes out tomorrow. Reviews gonna drop tomorrow?
>
> Doesn't look like they sent out early review codes for this one which is always a
> little worrying. But I played it for about an hour this morning and it's fantastic!
> It'll be interesting to see how it reviews.
>
>

To reiterate, Helldivers rocks! Played it until about 3am last night with a few friends. Mind you, I'd be out by midnight on a normal night. Fast-paced and hectic. Tons to unlock and collect. A little disappointed by the in-game currency and battle pass type stuff, but such is the way of it now.
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
10-Feb(#29)
Finished suicide squad today and my overall impression shifted pretty drastically once I beat it. Went from a solid 8 to maybe a 6 if not lower. The gameplay got stale but that took 20 hours. The story had some really cool high moments but the last quarter of it really sucked.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 10-Feb(#30)
Oh Rocksteady. How far we have fallen from the top. Went from Arkham games averaging a 9/10 to SS ranking with a 6. Where’s Ollie at? Because you have failed this city.
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
10-Feb(#31)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> Oh Rocksteady. How far we have fallen from the top. Went from Arkham games averaging
> a 9/10 to SS ranking with a 6. Where’s Ollie at? Because you have failed this city.
>

Blame WB for tasking them with chasing the live service train even though it left the station long ago

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 10-Feb(#32)
Absolutely. That was implied. And Rocksteady was probably against it too but what can you do when you’re owned by a greedy corpo? Go private I guess but I’m sure that’s more work than it’s worth sometimes.
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
10-Feb(#33)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> Absolutely. That was implied. And Rocksteady was probably against it too but what
> can you do when you’re owned by a greedy corpo? Go private I guess but I’m sure
> that’s more work than it’s worth sometimes.

From a practical perspective, you can only go private if the corp is willing to let you. You can't just buy back your company stock unless the people that own it will sell it.

TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 10-Feb(#34)
Oh then nvm. No way WB would let one of their cash cows go willingly like that. Unless they sell off their games division which I heard was a thing a year or so ago when they were hurting financially but I think since they merged with Discovery those woes have partially ceased for now. I was kinda hoping they would have sold off some of their gaming assets though to other companies because with the exception of a couple of newer WB games, like Hogwarts Legacy, most lately have been trashy and live servicey crap for the most part.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
12-Feb(#35)
OP updated with scores for Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden. It's sitting at 82 on Opencritic from 33 reviews. Very solid!

https://opencritic.com/game/15909/banishers-ghosts...

Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
12-Feb(#36)
Another solid AA game from Don't Nod looks like. I'll have to check it out at some point.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
12-Feb(#37)
Nice on Banishers! As soon as I saw who was making it and the trailer it went into my Amazon wish list. Looked like it had potential.
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
13-Feb(#38)
Helldivers 2 sitting at 82 with 14 reviews. Currently the same score the first game averaged.
Bleed_DukeBlue
Triple Gold Good Trader
13-Feb(#39)
Speaking of Banishers, Target is the worst. They never sent my Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince pre-order, and I finally cancelled after more than a month. Now, my copy of Banishers (that I pre-ordered months ago) is backordered to the end of February. I still have plenty to play, but they're super unreliable.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
13-Feb(#40)
Shane12m wrote:
> Helldivers 2 sitting at 82 with 14 reviews. Currently the same score the first game
> averaged.
>

Thanks for the heads up! Just updated the OP. Still at 82 from 15 reviews.

https://opencritic.com/game/15908/helldivers-ii

benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
* 14-Feb(#41)
Arzette releases today!

https://youtu.be/oki_dGhip3E

Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
* 14-Feb(#42)
Mario v Donkey Kong currently at a 77 with 20 reviews
Scott
GameTZ Subscriber Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
14-Feb(#44)
Shane12m wrote:
> Mario v Donkey Kong currently at a 78 with 18 reviews

I was really on the fence with that one, I had a feeling it would be in the 70s, or at best low 80s. Glad I at least only put it as an alt, but I wish I had just gone with something else instead.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
14-Feb(#45)
Shane12m wrote:
> Damn so sad :(
>

Damn dude that's so sad...

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
14-Feb(#46)
benstylus wrote:
> Arzette releases today!
>
>
>

Weird one but I can't seem to find an OpenCritic page for this game. I do see it on Metacritic, though. It has 4 reviews so far. I'll check back later today.

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
14-Feb(#47)
OP updated with scores for Mario vs. Donkey Kong. It's sitting at 77 on Opencritic from 20 reviews.

https://opencritic.com/game/15498/mario-vs-donkey-...

sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
14-Feb(#48)
Wow wrecked by a Nintendo game, oh well. See you all next year raspberry
bonham2
600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
14-Feb(#49)
I FULLY expected that.
PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews
* 14-Feb(#50)
I enjoyed Mario vs DK on GBA all those years ago, but cut it off my list at the last minute before submitting it. While it was a pretty fun game in 2004, that doesn't always mean it'll still be fun 20 years later. 77 sounds about right. And now that the remake exists they'll use that as an excuse not to put the GBA version on the NSO Expansion Pack service.

edit: I just watched Dashie play this on YouTube. It's a 50 minute video, but I was done watching after barely 20 minutes. It doesn't look nearly as fun as I remember it being. Not only am I kinda glad I didn't put it on my list this year, I'm glad I didn't rush out to buy it based purely on how fun I remember it being 20 years ago. Now I just hope Luigi's Mansion 2 and Paper Mario 2 have aged much better.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
14-Feb(#51)
High 70s/low 80s kinda felt like the ceiling for Mario vs DK. I was actually pretty surprised to see that it made it onto more lists than Paper Mario did.

Frank
GameTZ Subscriber 800 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13) Has Written 11 Reviews Secret Santa
15-Feb(#52)
Oops. Bet that bites me in the ass later this year. laughing out loud
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
15-Feb(#53)
Completely forgot Paper Mario TYD remake was releasing this year. And Luigi’s Mansion 2 remake. So many games. So little time! (And room on lists)
Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
16-Feb(#54)
Helldivers now sitting at 84. Going up
Played for a bit and it’s a lot of fun
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
17-Feb(#55)
Shane12m wrote:
> Helldivers now sitting at 84. Going up
> Played for a bit and it’s a lot of fun

Yeah, it's awesome! I've played it every night since launch. It's honestly the most fun I've had in a co-op game in a really long time.

Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
17-Feb(#56)
OP updated with scores for Skull and Bones. It's sitting at 60 on OpenCritic from 10 reviews.

https://opencritic.com/game/16299/skull-and-bones

@Archer that's probably GG unfortunately. Tough to stay in the hunt with a score that low. But maybe it'll go up a bit when more reviews come in?

Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
17-Feb(#57)
Yeah, I knew it was a mistake not to edit my list and remove it. I even made a joke last month about not doing it. Should have actually done it. Oh well. Next year.

Kommie
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
17-Feb(#58)
AAAA gaming's first game is a 60.
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
17-Feb(#59)
Kommie wrote:
> AAAA gaming's first game is a 60.

Yeah but AAAAA is gonna turn it around. Once we hit that billion dollar dev cost games are gonna be good again. At least a 70.


Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
17-Feb(#60)
I just watched some actual gameplay of the AAAA game, and wow. 60 seems about right. Looks like its Black Flag without all the actually interesting gameplay. This should have just stayed an addon for black flag like it was originally developed. Not sure how that took 11 years to make.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
17-Feb(#61)
So is Skull and Bones just ship battles pretty much? Nothing hybrid on foot like in Black Flag? (Which I loved)
PizzaTheHutt
GameTZ Subscriber Gold Good Trader Has Written 3 Reviews
17-Feb(#62)
I've been putting Skull & Bones on my list for years...and this is the thanks they give me? Ubisoft titles are now banned from ever making my list again.

benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
17-Feb(#63)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> So is Skull and Bones just ship battles pretty much? Nothing hybrid on foot like
> in Black Flag? (Which I loved)

My understanding is there is a wood harvesting minigame too.


Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
17-Feb(#64)
benstylus wrote:
> TalonJedi87 wrote:
>> So is Skull and Bones just ship battles pretty much? Nothing hybrid on foot like
>> in Black Flag? (Which I loved)
>
> My understanding is there is a wood harvesting minigame too.
>

From the boat. All the mini games are timing mini games, and you do them from the boat. The start of the game has you running around an island to get supplies and money to built a boat. But it seems once you get the boat, that is all there is. The boat.
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
* 17-Feb(#65)
That is beyond pathetic. 5 delays and $70 later for a 16th century boat sim.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
17-Feb(#66)
PizzaTheHutt wrote:
> I've been putting Skull & Bones on my list for years...and this is the thanks
> they give me? Ubisoft titles are now banned from ever making my list again.
>
>

At least you were smart enough to put it as an alt and not a main pick like I did.
benstylus
GameTZ Gold Subscriber GameTZ Full Moderator 550 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (9) Has Written 26 Reviews
17-Feb(#67)
TalonJedi87 wrote:
> That is beyond pathetic. 5 delays and $70 later for a 16th century boat sim.

Sounds like it was designed in the 16th century too


incubus421
450 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
18-Feb(#68)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Shane12m wrote:
>> Helldivers now sitting at 84. Going up
>> Played for a bit and it’s a lot of fun
>
> Yeah, it's awesome! I've played it every night since launch. It's honestly the most
> fun I've had in a co-op game in a really long time.
>
>

Agreed. So many people are playing it from my friend list. Usually I'm luck to have 2-3 people playing the same game I am. I have like 6-8 every night playing Helldivers. Always down to join a group and go bug/bot hunting. Looking forward to the return of mechs and all the other content possibilities.
nonamesleft
Double Gold Good Trader
* 19-Feb(#69)
After having watched around 3 hours of gameplay of Tekken 8, I'd say the 90 is deserved. Solid gameplay, good cutscenes, and a continuation to a story that, while I know little about, made me want to know more.

Found a little glitch in the gameplay. Not a big deal, just for fun:

image

There's a scene where the main bad guy is asked what his hobbies are.


It's sneaker collecting. Yes, the guy who's bent on destruction 😂

image
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sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
21-Feb(#70)
Lol top game this year so far is Balatro. Can't believe nobody had that one.
Archer
GameTZ Subscriber 500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Has Written 1 Review
21-Feb(#71)
sefjwm wrote:
> Lol top game this year so far is Balatro. Can't believe nobody had that one.

Maybe because its rouge lite deck builder where you play poker indie game that no one knew existed until the other day, lol. I saw that score on there yesterday myself and was like, wtf is this game.
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
* 21-Feb(#72)
Oh noes, now it's dropping. I think there were a couple small indies nobody heard of last year in the top 10 as well.

Edit - looks like a bunch of them: Videoverse, Against the Storm, Turbo Overkill, Jack Jeanne, and even Pizza Tower kind of came out of nowhere.
And now I have a list of games to check out.
incubus421
450 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
21-Feb(#73)
sefjwm wrote:
> Oh noes, now it's dropping. I think there were a couple small indies nobody heard
> of last year in the top 10 as well.
>
> Edit - looks like a bunch of them: Videoverse, Against the Storm, Turbo Overkill,
> Jack Jeanne, and even Pizza Tower kind of came out of nowhere.
> And now I have a list of games to check out.

Against the Storm is fun, but I thought it lost its luster pretty quick. I played it for around probably 15-20, and it seemed like it would have taken five times that long to actually accomplish/beat this game. As a RTS Rogue-like this is definitely a unique one.
Kommie
250 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
21-Feb(#74)
Turbo Overkill demo was cool. I picked it up yesterday before the same ended.
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
22-Feb(#75)
Reviews dropped for Final Fantasy VII Rebirth this morning. It's currently sitting at 92 from 57 reviews. Wow! It's on 26 out of 28 lists so almost everyone has it. I'll have the OP updated sometime this afternoon.

https://opencritic.com/game/15136/final-fantasy-vi...

Shane12m
Triple Gold Good Trader
* 22-Feb(#76)
Heavyd814life wrote:
> Reviews dropped for Final Fantasy VII Rebirth this morning. It's currently sitting
> at 92 from 57 reviews. Wow! It's on 26 out of 28 lists so almost everyone has it.
> I'll have the OP updated sometime this afternoon.
>
>
>

I did not expect reviews to drop so soon. Nice!

lol of course eurogamer gave it an 8. I feel like they give most games an 8
TalonJedi87
GameTZ Subscriber Triple Gold Good Trader Has Written 4 Reviews
22-Feb(#77)
Holy moley! It’s up to 93 now on OC. And even a 94 on Metacritic. Dayyyuuum!!!
Heavyd814life
GameTZ Subscriber 600 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader Gold Global Trader (13)
22-Feb(#78)
Okay peeps OP has been updated. Looks like everyone is finally on the board!

Scott
GameTZ Subscriber Global Trader - willing to trade internationally Has Written 2 Reviews
22-Feb(#79)
This is going to be an interesting year! Thanks for doing these @Heavyd814life, they're always fun to participate in!
sefjwm
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
22-Feb(#80)
Wow another unheard of Indie over 90. Congrats FF Rebirth!

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