incubus421 wrote:> ChuckyDJ wrote:
>> Hey, Why did the patriots fire the 2 deflator employees the following day after
> that
>> cheating game was uncovered? The one he won in Tampa with the great defense he
> had
>> is legit I hope. Not sure why edelman didn't come over from the patriots with
> Toms
>> buddy Gronk but he had enough to pull through that one year. Edelman was like
> his
>> little brother or something, it was hilarious and sad watching the sucking up
> he
>> did to Brady. However once you get caught cheating its just the same as all the
> other
>> cheaters, you'll do it again and again. If you know what the team is calling when
>> they give certain signals at the line you can audible into a play that will shut
>> them down. Face it, that patriots team wouldn't have had a chance versus that
> rams
>> team otherwise. They got lucky to beat carolina a couple years later on another
> bogus
>> call late in the game. The 28-3 comeback versus Atlanta is mighty suspect also
> as
>> it looked like the falcons just stopped playing. That whole game looked very rigged
>> from the start. Then on the other hand it was nice when the patriots went in with
>> that 18-0 record and so much arrogance headed to the super bowl and the Giants
> beat
>> them. Then again in 2011. He got his 7 rings and off to retire and divorced cause
>> he put a season he was in decline ahead of more important things in his life.
> That
>> said a lot for his character. Bill will continue on with mediocre teams till he
> retires
>> or figures out a new cheating scheme. Face it, Tom was just a system quarterback
>> with his 3-5 yard passing and occasional longer pass. It worked though cause nobody
>> played bump and run on those receivers for whatever reason. They would stand 10
> yards
>> off and let them catch the ball and it was make a move or two and get 15-20 or
> get
>> tackled and get 5 yards at a time. When he got hurt you had other scrubs like
> Matt
>> Cassel, Ryan Mallett and Jacoby Brissett come in and pretty much do the same as
> Brady
>> did. So when he would get hurt Bill would hide the injuries on the reports and
> such.
>> Oh and then there are the Brady rules: Can't hit quarterback in the head, below
> the
>> knees, can't land on the quarterback, don't tackle him too hard or he will cry.
> Put
>> a dress on his ass and be done with it.
>
> @ChuckyDJ
>
> Deflategate
> You're wrong again. The Patriots SUSPENDED those two equipment managers in May...and
> reinstated them in September. AND they could only be reinstated with the NFL's consent.
>
>
> Furthermore, Deflategate is more laughable then Spygate. The Patriots team of lawyers
> had scientists present actual evidence that said, "yea, that's about the psi you
> would expect given the conditions of when/where they were inflated and the conditions
> of the game". This would also clear the Colts of any wrong doing, as 3 of their
> 4 balls were below psi as well, including 1 ball under by 2.0psi, the "alert" limit.
> You know who didn't present scientific evidence? The NFL! Of course, someone mad
> at the Patriots will just claim the scientists are biased.
> I've already posted the link to the rebuttal to the Wells Report, but its quite lengthy.
> Here it is in Layman's terms but I think your mind is already made up, since you
> completely disregarded the factual evidence that the Patriots did not record the
> Rams' Super Bowl walkthrough.
>
> Signal Stealing
> Signal stealing is all part of the game. Tony Dungy, Deion Sanders, Jimmy Johnson,
> Peyton Manning, all on record admitting it and/or have examples of other players/coaches
> doing it. Do broadcasts stray away from airing offensive/defensive signals or coach
> call sheets live? Why do you think players wear wristbands with plays on it? Why
> do coaches cover their mouths when they talk on the sidelines? Signal stealing is
> not illegal and it's not in the NFL rulebook. If a player comes over from another
> team, they have inside knowledge of another team's signals or audibles. Do you think
> they keep that to themselves so they aren't "cheating", nope they don't! Part of
> the strategy of the game is mixing up or masking your signals. It's well documented.
>
> Literally THE ONLY way it is against the rules to "spy" is if you record it during
> a game and then use the recording to make adjustments in the same game. Before you
> even try, it was proven over and over again and admitted to by Goodell and the NFL
> that the Patriots did not use any film during the same game.
>
> Scrub QBs
> Matt Cassel and Jacoby Brissett went on to be starting QBs on other teams. Matt
> Cassel went 10-5 in his second year with the Chiefs after NE and was selected to
> the Pro Bowl. Jacoby played well with the Colts, and even outplayed Deshaun for
> the Browns just this season. Scrubs, right?!
>
> Roughing the Passer / "The Brady Rules"
> Roughing the passer has been in the rulebook since 1940. Brady played well before
> the league started tweaking this rule. It was tweaked in 2009 (Brady started the
> 2001 season) to protect QBs from low hits after a Chiefs player on his hands and
> Agree with it or not, the QB is the only position that steps into a hit from the
> biggest players on the field from a mostly stationary position.
> The only other tweak to the rule is landing on the QB with full body weight. This
> didn't happen because of Brady, the Romo/Rodgers collar bone injuries more likely,
> and I think it's a largely unpopular rule change.
You can voice you're opinion just like I can and you can send links to information that I won't read all day. In the end like I said before I'm not a fan of any single team. I'm not a Patriots fan that's true. I enjoy routing against them for various reasons but I don't hate Brady or Belichick. I am a fan of 4 other teams in the afc and mainly pull for players rather than teams in some cases too. Whether the NFL made more of their cheating or whatever you want to call it is what it is though. Any time you gain an unfair advantage over your opponent thats what it is referred to. If the other teams cheated and didn't get caught or called out so be it.
Yes those other qb's were scrubs, I don't care that they has a season somewhere else with a playoff/super bowl ready team and had a decent year, The point is when they came in for Brady the show rolled on pretty much the same. When Payton Manning got hurt the team collapsed in Indy and Denver, When Roethlisberger declined and then left Pittsburgh just barely maintained. When Aaron Rodgers gets hurt or moves on/retires watch what happens with the packers. In you're defense you could argue the last couple New England years Brady kept that ship afloat but that is a Belichick problem not getting any receivers for Tom and letting the offensive line go down the drain while working on the defense so much.
The "Brady Rules" I stand by though. He gets all the calls and more and when he doesn't he gets up and starts crying like a baby and goes to the sideline and physically abuses his tablet. Please get him his pacifier and his sippy cup.
I shouldn't have called it signal stealing, how about stealing the whole offensive game plan for super bow/playoff games. That's what it actually was, my bad on that part.
Back to the Brady rules for a second though Cam Newton, Lamar Jackson, Ben Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees and I could go on and on didn't get those kind of calls. Maybe its because Brady is a statue but more likely because of ratings. The quarterbacks should be protected much better though. Look at punters and kickers in general you can't even have a breeze blow on them and they get the yellow flying. Quarterbacks are much more valuable then the 6 or 8 play a game soccer stars.
