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I don't normally do this, but refs also taking it to the Chiefs... got a stake in this.

Chiefs overcome. Let's go.

Pats @ Raiders:

In what world is a toe on the line inbounds and counted as a TD!?!? I have not seen this upheld in all my years of watching football. I thought the general rule is: if there is no color/space/grass between the toe and the white OB line, the play is OB.
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Patriots / Jakobi Myers makes the most bone-headed of plays headed into what should have been OT. Why are we in desperation mode in the last play of regulation!? Game was tied! Why are we throwing laterals? End the play, end regulation, and play to win in OT. Terrible on every level. Pats offense is in shambles and there isn't just one person that deserves the blame. Undisciplined, poor play, bad mistakes. This is not all on Patricia. Jakobi should know WAY better then to throw a ball back to Mac Jones, who is all alone in the backfield with the D-line in his face. Ultimate embarrassment of a play. I didn't think I would live to see a Pats play more embarrassing then allowing the Dolphins to run back a TD on the last play of the game with Gronk in on Defense, but here we are.

Had to listen to the commentator say Derek Carr was "Mahomes-esque" when he shovel passed a ball on the run. Give me a break...


Other thoughts on the weekend, several good games.

Detroit is starting to look like a real contender and could definitely hand a few teams an upset should they make the playoffs. I'm hoping they do.
That Vikings comeback was so strange. Somehow they climbed back into the game, but they didn't even make it look good. It was just sub-par football against a BAD Colts team in the 2nd half.
Nice to see the Cowboys lose to the Jaguars. Have to bring them back down to reality every once in a while.
Does anyone want to win the NFC South?

I'm rooting for the Lions to sneak in as well.

incubus421 wrote:


https://twitter.com/Left_Eye_Images/status/1604656...

Angles are a thing. Was clearly a TD.

Usually the Raiders are on the losing end of these things. Let them have it!

KCPenguins wrote:

The end of his shoe is black. Compare it to his other shoe/foot. That look you posted shows pretty definitively that his toe was on the OB line. Kicking up white paint and all.

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Oh, good catch. I guess it's payback for the tuck rule... better now than in the AFCCG.

KCPenguins wrote:

Lol, these things do catch up to every team eventually.

...And now we have former Patriot Willie McGinest arrested for assault/with a deadly weapon...nice. Jumped a guy with two of his lackeys at a club.

Yeah, saw that. Blows my mind being set for life and putting yourself in those situations.

KCPenguins wrote:

At 51 years old no less. He always came across as such a nice guy on the NFL network. Was Marshall Faulk let go because of a violence related arrest?

Edit: It was a sexual harassment accusation that got Faulk. Him and Heath Evans & Ike Taylor were accused of harassing an NFL network employee.

First we had XFactor now another big Chiefs fan turns out to be a career criminal, mostly a bank robber.

https://geniuscelebs.com/xavier-michael-babudar-ch...

Gypsy wrote:

That's probably why he always wore that wolf costume to the games. Avoid identification.

incubus421 wrote:

His current jail booking (publicly viewable) has wearing a mask in commission of a felony among the charges, wonder if it was the wolf mask lol. Date is the set court date.

Like who does that? I know first row seats are expensive, but who robs a bank? How many bank robberies go unsolved with today's technology/LE? Must have been pretty desperate/in a low place.

Wow, Carr is being benched and the team won't admit it but it may be so that he doesn't get hurt and can't pass a physical in a few months, so the Raiders can cut him to avoid paying him big money. Does Davante demand a trade if his buddy Carr is gone?

Looks like Feb 14-15th will be telling. Guarantees $23M of '23 money and $7M of '24 money. He's not a bad QB, easily better than half the starters. Raiders better off giving the old ST's coach the HC job rather than Josh.

back4more wrote:


Carr and the team reportedly agree to let him stay away from the team. Adams is like "bro, he's the reason I'm here." McDaniels doing it again?

New interim coach and first game is against Chiefs. KC better show up as this should be Denver's best effort of the year.

AFC Playoffs right now: Allen, Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence, Herbert, Jackson, Tua.

As a Jags fan I almost can't believe where Lawrence has this team after last season and the beginning of this season. I know the Jags can't compete with the Chiefs, Bills or Bengals just yet, but hopefully with a few more pieces the Jags can stick around for several seasons. On the other side, with Brady and Rogers near the end of the road, it might be a long stretch of AFC dominance. I think Hurts will be damn good for a while but who else has potential to make a long, strong run in the NFC? Geno Smith? Dak?

back4more wrote:

Dude is impressive. I pull for him because he’s a GA boy even though he made a foolish mistake and went to Clemson.

Feeb wrote:

That's a What If that I am thankful did not happen. Trevor in red and black would have been brutal to watch from a Gator perspective.

NFC Playoffs as of now: Hurts, Cousins, Purdy, Brady, Dak, Jones, Heinicke.

Still rooting for Detroit to make it, though if they don't I'm going for the NFC East sweep. Playoffs should be fun.

Not to be a homer but I truly feel San Francisco is the most complete team in the nfc.. their 2nd half defense had averaged giving up like 5 points per game and the offense hums with CMC and Purdy. I personally think purdy is the best sf qb in their roster.

I don't disagree.

Except they got handled by falcons. Run defense sucks.

Feeb wrote:
That was 11 weeks ago.. since then, they went 8-1 (loss to chiefs, then won 8 straight), traded for CMC and have only given up 20 points once since then (and it was last week when they were up 37-13). They have only given up 20+ points twice all season...

shadyfozzie wrote:

Yeah that was an eternity ago. Seems like a completely different team.

Definitely two different trajectories...

Barring a Packers meltdown, Lions-Packers next week for the final WC. Miami free falling, but can get in with a win against the Jets and a NE loss against Buf. (If I'm not mistaken)

Edit: Seattle is in with a win and Packer's loss.

Eagles collapsing, 49ers can sneak in to the 1 seed with a win over Cards and an Eagles loss to Giants..
49ers/Raiders was a helluva game..

shadyfozzie wrote:

I was on pins and needles watching that game! I don't know what happened to the 49ers defense, but I'm glad the offense came through, but just barely. That was a rare miss for Gould for the game winning field goal. Now we just need a win next week and the Eagles to lose to the Giants, which is very possible.

citizen_zane wrote:

Only issue is that the Giants are locked into the 6th seed, no matter the situation next week, so they may rest guys... SF just has to beat the lowly Cards to lock in the 2 seed.. It's interesting that the 3 seed plays the giants, but the 2 seed could play detroit, green bay OR seattle..

I hope the Jags beat the Titans next week for the division. Tennessee resting Henry hurt me in several fantasy league's I'd love to see Houston win and the Bears lose so my Bears can get the first overall pick

Bighab wrote:


Does it matter? QB should go 1, Bears shouldn't be looking unless they want to trade down. Right?

Really hope that isn't serious. Bill's DB collapsed after a tackle, but didn't look like neck or head trauma. Stood up, took a step, looked ok and dropped untouched. Could be bad unfortunately. Really hope he's ok.

Edit: Fudge... CPR on the field. Praying for the young man. Puts things into perspective. Not sure how they can continue this.

Edit 2: Kudos to the Bengals coach for going to the Bill's coach/refs telling them to take their time or suspend it. ESPN needs to just cut away and run a rerun. It's uncomfortable watching Susie and Booger continue talking about this.

Yeah I threw up a bit. Absolutely horrible.

Some people on twitter have said that this could be a commotio cordis situation.. the fact that it's been an hour and still no word on the game is a big fudge up by the nfl. Just postpone till Wednesday

shadyfozzie wrote:


Honestly they don't have to announce what, just suspend the fudgeer for the night. They should not play tonight at this point regardless. At this point doesn't matter what they do.

KCPenguins wrote:

I agree.. who the hell wants to play now?? If I were bills players I'd just leave the stadium

Suzy kolbern, what a trooper. She looks like she's barely keeping it together. Looks like they are postponing as they are collecting equipment on bills sideline

I only wish the NFL would officially announce it and ESPN would stop coverage. Feels dirty continuing coverage.