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Topic   PlayStation 5 Discussion Thread

Frank
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* 11-Jun-2020(#1)
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Let's discuss Sony's latest console, the PlayStation 5!


DrizzDrizzDrizz
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13-Mar-2023(#81)
I use it on rare occasions (mostly to start Twitch stream which I only do for one person who occasionally wants to watch some gameplay, or to save the last X minutes of something if i wanna capture it, like a crazy Fifa match or something)
but that started relatively recently. In reality if you’re not a streamer type, it’s not that useful
kevolones
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13-Mar-2023(#82)
I save clips all the time. Mostly for multiplayer games
benstylus
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13-Mar-2023(#83)
They should have made the touchpad a share button, and bring back the select button.

The touchpad is 100% worthless. Even in games that use it, gameplay would always be better and more intuitive by using an analog stick or a button. You know, where your hands and fingers already are.

PizzaTheHutt
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13-Mar-2023(#84)
I use the share button all the time. I save tons of screenshots and video clips that I then share on Discord or YouTube, plus the video clips can be saved in 4K which my capture card can't even do.

As for the TouchPad, I'm indifferent about it. Very few games make any meaningful use out of it. It's almost as pointless as the microphones on DS/3DS/Wii U GamePad, whose whole existence is built around Nintendo's obsession with making you look like an idiot blowing into them.
kevolones
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13-Mar-2023(#85)
I like when the touchpad is used to bring out the map. But a button would work too.

I did like a game where it would depend where you pressed the touch pad a different menu would pop out. Dont recall which game it was.
bonham2
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13-Mar-2023(#86)
Days Gone does that. Swipe right opens the map, but it isn't very accurate. I find it more annoying than anything else.
Feeb
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13-Mar-2023(#87)
MH rise uses it well. Just tap to get the map.
benstylus
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14-Mar-2023(#88)
kevolones wrote:
> I like when the touchpad is used to bring out the map. But a button would work too.
>
> I did like a game where it would depend where you pressed the touch pad a different
> menu would pop out. Dont recall which game it was.

Feeb wrote:
> MH rise uses it well. Just tap to get the map.

So it sounds like you both like it when it is used like a regular button.

This reminds me of people talking about all the cool things that NFTs can be used for, pretty much all of which can just as easily be done (and in most cases have already been done for decades) without NFTs.

The touchpad is a feature that is far more expensive to include than a button, and is often implemented poorly in games that use it. The times people like it are when it functions the same as a button.

If we still had select, that tap-for-map feature could be an actual button.

DrizzDrizzDrizz
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14-Mar-2023(#89)
I occasionally use the touchpad for quickly getting to other letters on the on screen keyboard lol
longhornsk57
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
14-Mar-2023(#90)
The guitar strumming in TLoU2 was a pretty cool use.
kevolones
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14-Mar-2023(#91)
benstylus wrote:
> kevolones wrote:
>> I like when the touchpad is used to bring out the map. But a button would work
> too.
>>
>> I did like a game where it would depend where you pressed the touch pad a different
>> menu would pop out. Dont recall which game it was.
>
> Feeb wrote:
>> MH rise uses it well. Just tap to get the map.
>
> So it sounds like you both like it when it is used like a regular button.
>
> This reminds me of people talking about all the cool things that NFTs can be used
> for, pretty much all of which can just as easily be done (and in most cases have
> already been done for decades) without NFTs.
>
> The touchpad is a feature that is far more expensive to include than a button, and
> is often implemented poorly in games that use it. The times people like it are when
> it functions the same as a button.
>
> If we still had select, that tap-for-map feature could be an actual button.
>
>

Oh I agree. I cant remember the last time a Dev used it intuitively for a game other than the map swap thing. I want to say it works on the Vita TV for some games, but its been so long that I cant say for certain.
Feeb
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* 14-Mar-2023(#92)
Touchpad sucks when it’s used as a swipe, r/l divided functions, hold for effect etc. I would not notice it’s absence. The game I mentioned MHR defaults to a hold to toggle the map - I purposely changed in the options to make it function like a simple button. The way they wanted it to work was a big nope for me.
Archer
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14-Mar-2023(#93)
I like it when games use it for two different functions or more. Pressing the left side does one thing, pressing the right side does another. There was one game that had like 4 functions attached to it. I think it might have been Days Gone, can't remember. Swipe up/down and press left or right. Its too bad more developers don't use it like that. I actually used it in that game. Most game I ignore it because its not implement properly.
benstylus
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14-Mar-2023(#94)
longhornsk57 wrote:
> The guitar strumming in TLoU2 was a pretty cool use.

Cool as in "oh that's kinda clever/cute that they did this" or cool as in "this measurably enhanced my gameplay experience in a way that buttons or an analog stick would not"?

Because it sounds like the former rather than the latter.

Kommie
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14-Mar-2023(#95)
Play it and find out @benstylus
Archer
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14-Mar-2023(#96)
The game wasn't made for an 8 year old, so he has no interest in it.
Kommie
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14-Mar-2023(#97)
Sorry. I forgot!
Archer
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14-Mar-2023(#99)
Who in their right mind is buying a PS5 PRO when the PS5 hasn't even really taken off yet. This feels like the most empty gen of all time. And they want to push new hardware on us already? I'll pass.
Scott
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14-Mar-2023(#100)
I hope that's true simply because it will mean the price can finally start to drop on the regular PS5. There are several games that have released for both PS4 and PS5, and while I could play them on PS4, I'd much rather play them on PS5. I don't play enough PS games to justify dropping $500 on the system though, so I need some serious price drops to start kicking it. I didn't get around to buying a PS4 until 2020. I'm hoping to not have to wait as long this time around.
benstylus
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14-Mar-2023(#101)
Archer wrote:
> The game wasn't made for an 8 year old, so he has no interest in it.

Hey it's a good rule of thumb. Saves me a lot of money. yes

I do sometimes partake of the forbidden fruit of E10+ games though. Maybe even a Teen rated game if I'm feeling extra spicy shock

beavis
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14-Mar-2023(#102)
I literally just saw a PS5 on a shelf for the first time this past weekend, and it was at a small NEX (Navy Exchange). I think we are at a point now where the lifecycle on these things needs to be 10 years. I know that is not what console developers want to hear, but the changes being made are so small at this point that updating the system seems more practical than putting out a completely new system. Same could also be said for cell phones.

With the success of the Switch and the Steam Deck I also don't see how hybrid consoles aren't the future. Anything non hybrid is step back in my opinion, especially when you are looking for something to compete against the PC market. Figure out how to make a hybrid VR console and then you are ready to release something new. Hell even framerate and picture quality aren't that big anymore as most TVs aren't even able to keep up with what consoles can (theoretically) produce.

Sun
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14-Mar-2023(#103)
I think I'm in the last quarter of the game in The Callisto Protocol. I have never played the Dead Space games before, but this game has been decent. I'm not normally big on survival horror, but the game has been pretty fun. I know the whole point of the game is being isolated from others, but I started rolling my eyes every time I got separated from an NPC.
Sun
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14-Mar-2023(#104)
beavis wrote:
> I literally just saw a PS5 on a shelf for the first time this past weekend, and it
> was at a small NEX (Navy Exchange). I think we are at a point now where the lifecycle
> on these things needs to be 10 years. I know that is not what console developers
> want to hear, but the changes being made are so small at this point that updating
> the system seems more practical than putting out a completely new system. Same could
> also be said for cell phones.

Technology changes fast. It may be less noticeable graphically (I'm sure ray-tracing is just a buzz word to most people), but locked 60fps is key. I always choose performance mode over fidelity if given the option.


> With the success of the Switch and the Steam Deck I also don't see how hybrid consoles
> aren't the future. Anything non hybrid is step back in my opinion, especially when
> you are looking for something to compete against the PC market. Figure out how to
> make a hybrid VR console and then you are ready to release something new. Hell even
> framerate and picture quality aren't that big anymore as most TVs aren't even able
> to keep up with what consoles can (theoretically) produce.

I still prefer to play my AAA titles on my 65" LG OLED via PS5, especially if I'm playing 2+ hours in one sitting. I prefer Switch or SteamDeck if I'm playing less than an hour.
longhornsk57
Quadruple Gold Good Trader
14-Mar-2023(#105)
benstylus wrote:
> longhornsk57 wrote:
>> The guitar strumming in TLoU2 was a pretty cool use.
>
> Cool as in "oh that's kinda clever/cute that they did this" or cool as in "this measurably
> enhanced my gameplay experience in a way that buttons or an analog stick would not"?
>
> Because it sounds like the former rather than the latter.
>
>

Definitely the second one if that's an honest question.

It's an amazing game by its own right, but having that in there gives it a bit more realism than just buttons would, so it's that much more immersive. I guess you can try to play it and see..

Nothing about that game is "kinda clever/cute" - it's pretty hard core from beginning to end, and it feels like ND really fleshed out every part of the game, including those small aspects of guitar strumming which definitely add to the gameplay experience.



beavis
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14-Mar-2023(#106)
Sun wrote:
> beavis wrote:
>> I literally just saw a PS5 on a shelf for the first time this past weekend, and
> it
>> was at a small NEX (Navy Exchange). I think we are at a point now where the lifecycle
>> on these things needs to be 10 years. I know that is not what console developers
>> want to hear, but the changes being made are so small at this point that updating
>> the system seems more practical than putting out a completely new system. Same
> could
>> also be said for cell phones.
>
> Technology changes fast. It may be less noticeable graphically (I'm sure ray-tracing
> is just a buzz word to most people), but locked 60fps is key. I always choose performance
> mode over fidelity if given the option.
>
>
>> With the success of the Switch and the Steam Deck I also don't see how hybrid
> consoles
>> aren't the future. Anything non hybrid is step back in my opinion, especially
> when
>> you are looking for something to compete against the PC market. Figure out how
> to
>> make a hybrid VR console and then you are ready to release something new. Hell
> even
>> framerate and picture quality aren't that big anymore as most TVs aren't even
> able
>> to keep up with what consoles can (theoretically) produce.
>
> I still prefer to play my AAA titles on my 65" LG OLED via PS5, especially if I'm
> playing 2+ hours in one sitting. I prefer Switch or SteamDeck if I'm playing less
> than an hour.

Tech does change fast, but I think the publics ability to consume it has started to slow. Rising cost are going to be a huge issue going forward. Not to mention that almost all of the tech in a PS5 (or most current gen consoles) is wasted if you don't have a great tv.
Finn
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14-Mar-2023(#107)
I will probably get a PS5 Pro when it comes out, just because. But when I do I may end up keeping my PS5 and just moving it upstairs. We will see. Depends on if I have a PC at that time, which I have been saying for YEARS now raspberry
TalonJedi87
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14-Mar-2023(#108)
If I can get a trade in for my PS5 at GameStop for this rumored PS5 Pro with like a no more than max $100 differential I’d snag one up.
kevolones
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14-Mar-2023(#109)
Im ok with 1440p 60fps so I doubt there will be enough reasons for me to get a PS5 Pro.

Surely it will just be able to do 4k60 on some games.
longhornsk57
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14-Mar-2023(#110)
kevolones wrote:
> Im ok with 1440p 60fps so I doubt there will be enough reasons for me to get a PS5
> Pro.
>
> Surely it will just be able to do 4k60 on some games.

I am guessing the plan would be 4K native 60 with more RTX and possibly even better PSVR2 performance. An updated RDNA-3 or even RDNA-4 GPU would pair nicely in this endeavor if they do go Pro at some point. I doubt we'd see it for a few more years though since the PS5 is still selling so strongly and is still pretty good with framerates for the most part
DarkFact
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15-Mar-2023(#111)
They're not coming out with a PS5 Pro. Calm your bewbs.
MrBean
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15-Mar-2023(#112)
DarkFact wrote:
> They're not coming out with a PS5 Pro. Calm your bewbs.

The interwebz disagrees with this statement
Kommie
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15-Mar-2023(#113)
Ps5 pro is dumb. Developers would have to make games targeted at 4k 120 FPS, etc and what not and no ones gonna develop extra just for that. Cross platform devs certainly won't bother with higher res/framerate with the XsS
TalonJedi87
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* 15-Mar-2023(#114)
I’m in agreement with a PS5 Pro is unneeded right now and I would only get one with a juicy trade in deal. They should just make this console generation shorter then if they feel a need to keep up with advancements in hardware and come out with a PS6/Xbox Series Zenith in 2026-2027 then if that’s the case. Although from what I’m hearing more than a usual amount of PC games also available on console are running very poorly compared to their console counterparts so there may be a tide shift to focus dev kits on consoles as a primary VS PC development in the not too distant future which would only make sense for console devs to pump out another console sooner than later. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens.
DarkFact
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15-Mar-2023(#115)
MrBean wrote:
> DarkFact wrote:
>> They're not coming out with a PS5 Pro. Calm your bewbs.
>
> The interwebz disagrees with this statement

I mean, they're NEVER wrong. We've been on the cusp of a Switch Pro since 2018! Eventually everyone's right.
Kommie
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15-Mar-2023(#116)
2018? Didn't it come out in..... 2017?
DarkFact
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15-Mar-2023(#117)
Kommie wrote:
> 2018? Didn't it come out in..... 2017?

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Feeb
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15-Mar-2023(#118)
There’s not enough teraflops on ps5 and series x can emulate psx. Way underpowered.
bill
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15-Mar-2023(#119)
DarkFact
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15-Mar-2023(#120)
A slim would be very hot. Probably literally and figuratively
bill
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15-Mar-2023(#121)
beavis wrote:
> With the success of the Switch and the Steam Deck I also don't see how hybrid consoles
> aren't the future.

I agree. I'd be surprised if Sony isn't working on it for PlayStation. Not like a PSP or Vita, but a handheld with an 8" screen that can play ps4/5/6 games.

Topic   PlayStation 5 Discussion Thread