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Topic   Diablo

MrBean
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26-Oct-2019(#1)
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MrBean
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* 9-Jul-2023(#201)
Does this work without logging in?

Holy crap, I put in 183 hours with starting two weeks late? Wow, that's a problem.

What's really sad is that I totally should have been on when the Shakos were dropping. Ugh. Never gonna see that again.

https://d4armory.io/?account=68279480&hero=e7aa636...
Archer
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9-Jul-2023(#202)
Feeb wrote:
> Archer wrote:
>> No, its when the item drops. Or when you re-roll an affix or add a legendary aspect
>> to a non legendary item. There is no trading in this game. The only things that
> can
>> be traded are the things no one would want to trade.
>
> I meant can you wear / use one item with multiple toons. Like in wow.
>

Yes and no. The item is locked at the level you were when you found it. So the other character will then need to be that level to use it.
Feeb
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* 13-Jul-2023(#203)
No butcher sightings this week. Probably close to 100 runs without one.

NM completion rewards and treasure goblins have been my best source of good drops by far. The hellfire chests are usually lower level junk or the same unique (I have a box full of unique hands) I’ve found some insanely high aspects but they are super rare? I’d recommend researching the aspects for your class and be alert- store those things if you may one day respec etc. NM dungeons - even solo- are 100% best experience. I try to stay at least 3 levels over my current.

And holy crap everyone is playing a Druid right now. Sorcerers and Barbarians are going extinct.
MrBean
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13-Jul-2023(#204)
I did my nm dungeons 10 levels above me as a sorc all the way till the end. Cleared most in 5-10 minutes, crapty affix may take longer. Sorc is legit broken but smart play and good gear, still pretty sweet.

Mixed bag for me on gear. Dungeons, Helltides and gambling, I'd say pretty even split... Maybe a slight lean towards gambling.
Feeb
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13-Jul-2023(#205)
I’m keeping it around 3-5 because supposedly the diminishing returns are not worth the added time. It’s definitely pretty easy. Maybe I’ll try a few way up there.
Feeb
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* 15-Jul-2023(#206)
Found the butcher 4 times in NM last night! Got him to about 1/16 and ran out of pots evaded the first time. Got one shot the next two. The last one was not taking any damage so I evaded. He had shield and heal on hit it looked like. My days of harassing the NM butcher are done it seems. Build is not scaling well - resource is out often and they’ve caught up to me. I’m level 95 so only one more patch of magic nodes before it’s all a gear issue. Not much room to improve there. I’m collecting gear for a respec to whichever wolf doesn’t get nerfed to hell this week. I did try Uber Lilith - lasted about 30 seconds. No damage to her. Why do they let you step in there before 100? Lol.
BucketofJustice
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15-Jul-2023(#207)
I got an Xbox Series X for my living room yesterday and I got Diablo IV with it. Am I late to the party? I’ll be honest, I just wanna wreck crap with it. What’s some advice I’d be better off knowing before I jump in? Any ideas for builds, classes, etc.? I don’t know a lot about the series, but I played Diablo III through and I don’t remember anything about the story but I remember it was really fun. I tried reading through this topic but hot damn there’s a whole lot here. I appreciate any advice I can get before I boot it up. Thanks in advance!
Feeb
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* 15-Jul-2023(#208)
Pulverize Druid. It’s a werebear that hulk smashes everything. Pretty easy builds and fun as hell.
Feeb
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* 15-Jul-2023(#209)
Made this if anyone interested. I can promote anyone to leader that wants to do it.

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BucketofJustice
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15-Jul-2023(#210)
Druid it is. Thanks!
Feeb
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* 16-Jul-2023(#211)
Anyone wants to trade pvp kills for the achieve hit me up- Bradbo#1304 is BT. PSN is NatasboB.

If not I’ll go harass noobs in WT 1 I hate to do it.
Archer
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16-Jul-2023(#212)
Feeb wrote:
> Anyone wants to trade pvp kills for the achieve hit me up- Bradbo#1304 is BT. PSN
> is NatasboB.
>
> If not I’ll go harass noobs in WT 1 I hate to do it.

Use local co-op since you are on console. Crazy fast and easy to do. Its what I did. If you have a second controller that is. Turn on the second controller while you in game. Not the menu but actually playing your character. You will then see a hit start to join game for P2. You can use another profile or guest. Once you create a character for this controller then just go to the PVP area. Go right outside of the town in the area so you are close to run to the statue to absolve as you have to do that between kills. You just go into the radial menu and mark yourself. Kill them. Run back into town and use the statue. Then run back to them and rez them. Activate pvp in the menu again and repeat. Took me like 4 minutes.
Feeb
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16-Jul-2023(#213)
I’ll mess around with it for a bit and then do that if it’s stupid. These dudes are geared and spec’d to the max out here.
Feeb
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16-Jul-2023(#214)
Archer wrote:
> Feeb wrote:
>> Anyone wants to trade pvp kills for the achieve hit me up- Bradbo#1304 is BT.
> PSN
>> is NatasboB.
>>
>> If not I’ll go harass noobs in WT 1 I hate to do it.
>
> Use local co-op since you are on console. Crazy fast and easy to do. Its what I did.
> If you have a second controller that is. Turn on the second controller while you
> in game. Not the menu but actually playing your character. You will then see a hit
> start to join game for P2. You can use another profile or guest. Once you create
> a character for this controller then just go to the PVP area. Go right outside of
> the town in the area so you are close to run to the statue to absolve as you have
> to do that between kills. You just go into the radial menu and mark yourself. Kill
> them. Run back into town and use the statue. Then run back to them and rez them.
> Activate pvp in the menu again and repeat. Took me like 4 minutes.

Yikes. You gotta have two ps logins and two Battle.net logins to do this.
Archer
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16-Jul-2023(#215)
Feeb wrote:
> Archer wrote:
>> Feeb wrote:
> |>> Anyone wants to trade pvp kills for the achieve hit me up- Bradbo#1304 is BT.
>> PSN
> |>> is NatasboB.
> |>>
> |>> If not I’ll go harass noobs in WT 1 I hate to do it.
>>
>> Use local co-op since you are on console. Crazy fast and easy to do. Its what
> I did.
>> If you have a second controller that is. Turn on the second controller while you
>> in game. Not the menu but actually playing your character. You will then see a
> hit
>> start to join game for P2. You can use another profile or guest. Once you create
>> a character for this controller then just go to the PVP area. Go right outside
> of
>> the town in the area so you are close to run to the statue to absolve as you have
>> to do that between kills. You just go into the radial menu and mark yourself.
> Kill
>> them. Run back into town and use the statue. Then run back to them and rez them.
>> Activate pvp in the menu again and repeat. Took me like 4 minutes.
>
> Yikes. You gotta have two ps logins and two Battle.net logins to do this.

I didn't realize that. I already have another profile on my xbox, my nephew's account. And he has a blizzard/bnet account because he plays Overwatch. So I just signed into his account on the other controller. Didn't even think about needing all that for it to work.
Feeb
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* 16-Jul-2023(#216)
I just went into PvP zone for 10 minutes and easily got it. Mayhem on there. I also instantly looted an ancestral axe on my next NM that looks very PVPish that I’ve not seen yet. Seems like a strange coincidence.

And then the same axe was the reward at end of NM run… waxing gibbous it’s called. Mighty big coincidence
Feeb
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16-Jul-2023(#217)
Just grouped with a bone spear Necro for Uber Lilith kill. It is so broken. Got the plat on ps4 and 5.
Archer
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18-Jul-2023(#218)
I'm reading the massive patch notes for the season update. And I can not believe how dumb these devs are. I'm not even going to bother checking out the season now.

Feeb
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18-Jul-2023(#219)
Did you guys get the deluxe / season pass edition? I would jump in if I had it probably.
brian9824
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18-Jul-2023(#220)
Archer wrote:
> I'm reading the massive patch notes for the season update. And I can not believe
> how dumb these devs are. I'm not even going to bother checking out the season now.
>
>

I glanced at them and didn't see anything to crazy, looks like a few changes to the most OP build interactions mostly, didn't see many nerfs, and saw lots of improvements, but they are still lacking in some important QOL and balance issues.

What part of the patch notes did you think were dumb out of curiosity?
Feeb
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18-Jul-2023(#221)
Seems silly that they are making quite a few changes to keep Uber Lilith stupid hard. Nerfing the builds that are honestly useless outside of her and making the group / carry not reward fully. I was expecting this and after spending quite a bit of time and gold respeccing to fight her I just got in a group with a cheese build. It’s a broken boss with an achievement tied to it on consoles that is not obtainable by most classes without a cheese, dozens more hours farming, tons of gold, days of trying etc

I probably only tried it wholeheartedly about 30 times over 3 days but it wasn’t happening with pulverize- and I felt that nerf was coming for shred- it did.
Archer
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18-Jul-2023(#222)
brian9824 wrote:
> Archer wrote:
>> I'm reading the massive patch notes for the season update. And I can not believe
>> how dumb these devs are. I'm not even going to bother checking out the season
> now.
>>
>>
>
> I glanced at them and didn't see anything to crazy, looks like a few changes to the
> most OP build interactions mostly, didn't see many nerfs, and saw lots of improvements,
> but they are still lacking in some important QOL and balance issues.
>
> What part of the patch notes did you think were dumb out of curiosity?

I mean, did you really read the patch notes? Everything was nerfed. They clearly have no idea how to address the balance issues in the game. Nor do they understand why people think the older games are fun to play.


Level scaling inside dungeons and most overworld territories has been adjusted in World Tiers III and IV. Monsters will begin to trail behind the player in Level after a certain point (up to a maximum of 5 Levels behind).
World Tier IV Example (this means far less xp for killing things in dungeons and the open world):

If the player’s Level is below 75, the monster’s Level is 75.
If the player’s Level is 76-80, the monster Level is 75.
If the player’s Level is 81, the monster’s Level is 76.
If the player’s Level is 82, the monster’s Level is 77, etc. (from this point the monsters will always be -5). A.K.A. No reason to kill anything in the open world now. Because you'll get 25% less experience for your effort.


We are adjusting bonus experience rewards for killing monsters that are a higher Level than the player. (this is a major nerf to xp gains for NM dungeons after they finally gave us a buff to them to make them worth playing)

Pre-Season of the Malignant bonuses:
1 Level higher: +15%.
2 Levels higher: +20%.
3+ Levels higher: +25%.
Post-Season of the Malignant:
1.5% bonus per Level up to 10 Levels.
Ex:
+1 level: +1.5%.
+2 levels: +3%.
+10 levels: +15%.
So when you ran a NM dungeon 3 levels above you or 20 levels above you, you were getting a 25% increase. Now 3 levels above you has gone from 25% to 4.5%. WTF. And now a 10 level higher is only 15% increase. Why not just drop WT5 with higher level monsters and a higher XP gain across the board. Like what in the actual fudge is their thought process on this stuff. Its anti player, anti fun, anti progression. No one wants to grind this game out for hundreds of hours because the loot is so bad. And there is so much down time between combat. So they decided to make level progression slower?


The Tortured Gift of Mysteries chest has had its cost increased to 250 Aberrant Cinders from 175.

First they buff the drops, then walk them back because people were getting "too good of drops". Then they increase the cost of the only chest that is worth your time. Instead of making all the other chests viable to open.


Removed a 20% chance to drop extra equipment item from Elite monsters outside of Nightmare Dungeons and Helltide. - Why? Instead of fixing how crapty the loot dropping system is they are just removing the places you can get extra drops from.


Strength: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.
Dexterity: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.
Intelligence: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.
Willpower: 50% Stronger when on Weapons -> 25% Stronger when on Weapons.

All builds with a weapon stat were just cut down by 25%. Meaning all your damage just got nered across the board on every build of every class. Because of course everyone stacks their main damage stat on their weapon for the buff.


Cooldown Reductions: Reduced by ~30% - All builds are now back to being resource management time sinks in late game. Even after farming to target those affixes to reduce your cooldowns so you can use your skills without having to wait so long. Well, not anymore.


The real kicker is in how dumb they are though is this:
Critical Strike Damage: Reduced by ~17%
Vulnerable Damage: Reduced by ~40%
Damage to Crowd Controlled Enemies: Decreased by ~30%

The three things you are required to have to even be able to kill anything end game, gets nerfed. Across the board for everyone. They are taking away the damage output making every attack and skill weaker via all sources. But refuse to increase mob density to make playing the game fun. Instead of fixing the issues with certain builds that exploit combination of things to get crazy high damage numbers. They are hurting everyone and making everyone weaker. All because two classes have balance issues with certain skills, that interact with vuln and crit in an odd way. Yeah, that makes sense.


So to recap, and without touching on any of class specific nerfs, they nerfed everyones damage across the board. Reduced xp gains to make the slog more of a slog. And are trying to prevent people from target farming loot. And didn't do anything to the horrid loot drop setup. Didn't address how bad the mob density is in 95% of the game. Didn't address how flawed affixes are, or re-rolling them.

I am 100% convinced they do not play their own game. Its like they don't really have any idea how to fix all the complaints they are getting about the actual game play. Either that, or they want this to be a GaaS game like Destiny 2. Were they expect people to just keep paying them money for a mediocre experience with false promises of it getting better down the road.





Feeb
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* 18-Jul-2023(#223)
It’s bad. I’m glad I went ahead and hit 100. Loot honestly becomes a chore and mostly irrelevant outside of cosmetics / horse crap and that small chance for a better unique. It’s just a trip to the vendor to clean up bags to loot more trash. I started dodging gems after hitting the top tier- so what 25 levels? It’s like they just left 30 levels of empty content that was meant to be tier 5-6. The only true end goal seemingly Lilith or NM 100 is still mostly not reachable
Archer
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* 18-Jul-2023(#224)
Feeb wrote:
> Did you guys get the deluxe / season pass edition? I would jump in if I had it probably.
>

I do, but the season pass stuff is dumb. I'm pretty sure its just cosmetics. It doesn't unlock the xp stuff or any of that. At least I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

EDIT: yeah just looked it up. You just get more cosmetics in the paid vs the free.
MrBean
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18-Jul-2023(#225)
.... sweet, sounds like Season 1 is super awesome and completely a waste of time to just wait it out until they figure their crap out

Sounds like a plan to me, have plenty of other stuff I need to play anyway!
Feeb
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18-Jul-2023(#226)
The mobile game is pretty fun actually. Just tried it.
Feeb
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18-Jul-2023(#227)
Helltide is even more useless now. Wow.
MrBean
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18-Jul-2023(#228)
Feeb wrote:
> The mobile game is pretty fun actually. Just tried it.

Immortals?
Feeb
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* 18-Jul-2023(#229)
MrBean wrote:
> Feeb wrote:
>> The mobile game is pretty fun actually. Just tried it.
>
> Immortals?

Yeah. Loaded it up on my phone / backbone. It’s pretty cool.

Edit: Ok it sucks. Just the classes are from D3. It’s silly swipey touchey junk.
MrBean
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18-Jul-2023(#230)
https://maxroll.gg/d4/news/diablo-4-patch-1-1-0-fo...

The simple fact that it seems like leveling will be massively slowed down, big turn off. I spent too much damn time hitting 100 on the first round. Will wait to see what realistic times look like going forward.
brian9824
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19-Jul-2023(#231)
MrBean wrote:
>
> The simple fact that it seems like leveling will be massively slowed down, big turn
> off. I spent too much damn time hitting 100 on the first round. Will wait to see
> what realistic times look like going forward.

It also depends on how significant this is. NM dungeons might be best for gear, whispers for xp, etc.

>Reward experience for completing Whispers in World Tiers III and IV has been significantly increased.
Feeb
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* 19-Jul-2023(#232)
NM dungeons are 100% best for everything imo. I received one of every unique as a reward at least once. And the cow horse.

Helltides feel like a waste of lots of time- even knowing exactly where the mystery chest is using the online maps. The treasure goblins in helltide are much better to farm for gear chance.

In general try to find events, clear it , port to town, come back and try to do it again. Especially do this in helltide. If you see an event in a NM absolutely do it. Those are possibly the biggest exp chunk fast if you can do it efficiently.
brian9824
500 Trade Quintuple Gold Good Trader
19-Jul-2023(#233)
Feeb wrote:
> NM dungeons are 100% best for everything imo. I received one of every unique as a
> reward at least once. And the cow horse.
>
> Helltides feel like a waste of lots of time- even knowing exactly where the mystery
> chest is using the online maps. The treasure goblins in helltide are much better
> to farm for gear chance.
>
> In general try to find events, clear it , port to town, come back and try to do it
> again. Especially do this in helltide. If you see an event in a NM absolutely do
> it. Those are possibly the biggest exp chunk fast if you can do it efficiently.

Sounds like that is what they are trying to fix though, so that other things are more balanced. I'll be playing the season and unlocking the rewards but not going to crazy. haven't played Druid, Rogue, or Necro as i've been saving them for the seasons to give me something new.

I like to play D4 while watching TV and doing other stuff so i'm sure i'll have fun with it
Feeb
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* 19-Jul-2023(#234)
They made it way more beneficial to play the NM dungeons if I’m understanding correctly. The rewards are still there but better and mob exp is universally nerfed. They’ve made the helltide harder and rewards require longer to acquire. They’re pushing you to do the NM it seems- which honestly you should until you’re satisfactorily geared. Question is- for what? What to do after you’re geared etc but max your level and bang your head on the Uber boss?

Feels like PVP may be the only part with longevity right now.
DarkFact
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* 20-Jul-2023(#235)
You guys ready to SLLLLOWWWWWW DOWNNNNNNN

I get that Vulnerable was way too powerful, but you'd think they could have ...buffed up other stuff. Very strange, you usually don't see ARPGs going out of their way to help their userbase kill crap slower and level up less quickly end to end. Very strange design choice to, as they said, "enable way more builds" by disabling most the others.
Feeb
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20-Jul-2023(#236)
Ominous how they’re preserving the grind to cap and Lilith. Like that’s the plan.
Orlandu
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20-Jul-2023(#237)
Get the good reviews out of the way, wait for the playerbase to sink a ton of time into the game, then lay the groundwork to offer a way to pay to make the game less of a grind. Classic GAAS strategy.
Feeb
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* 20-Jul-2023(#238)
Blizzard has scheduled a town hall to address backlash over patch. Overwhelmingly negative reception and inevitable bleeding off of player base.
Archer
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22-Jul-2023(#239)
Anyone actually playing the season? I haven't touched the game in about 2 weeks or so. And I'm not seeing anything positive about the season thus far. Thinking I may just shelf this for the long haul until next year, like season 3 or 4.
Feeb
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22-Jul-2023(#240)
I decided to uninstall it. I’d like to max every class but I’m not touching it until they at least revert most of the changes. Supposedly some patch fixes in a week? And some not much later? Burned out mostly so I’d need a pretty good reason to return.
brian9824
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23-Jul-2023(#241)
I am, some of the malignant hearts are really cool on my necro build, auto triggering corpse explosion and grasping tendrils when i walk by corpses, auto casting curses as an aura when enemies are around me, etc.

Topic   Diablo