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Back in the 90s when everyone did IRC, I coded a chatbot that pulled from about 100 different text files, responding to certain words with random replies. Good times. Lots of hilariousness. One dude kept trying to have cybersex with it before getting frustrated (but would come back and try again later.)

I think AI will lead to job losses but a better way of life (if you can afford to live without a job anyway.) Otherwise crap's gonna get wild.

I'm skeptical. It seems like a lot of silly crap so far.

From my perspective, AI used to mean real human-like intelligence. But the stuff being called AI now seems like tricks that simulate intelligence without real substance.

Can't lead to much good - the risks outweigh the potential benefits. So, I'm looking on with a mix of trepidation and dread at this looming menace.

Is it true that Elon Musk and some other bigwigs wrote an open letter to somebody asking to pull the plug on continued AI development because of something or another? Also, how many more years 'til some meta AI developers jokingly name their creation "SkyNet" and everyone freaks the FREAK out?

Noid wrote:

There is a push by some in big-tech to slow down the speed at which AI is being developed so that some kind of thoughtful, safety-driven procedures and guidelines can be set in place.

bill wrote:

This is pretty much how I feel about it.

It’s eventually going to replace most jobs. From computer programmers to lawyers. Poof.

Will need universal basic income within a few years or it’ll get real ugly.

Reed wrote:

I too have seen reports of chat bots affecting the two fields you mention. Chatbots can create highly workable code and catch mistakes or errors in human-written code. One lawyer at least was attempting to use a chatbot to defend a case in traffic court, but backed out of using this "robot lawyer" when the threat of jail time landed at his feet.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robot-lawyer-wont-arg...

That being said, in what was presented in the 60 Minutes piece, we should aim to work alongside AI, not just have them replace entire industries or fields. For instance, running code through a chatbot would just be a best practice. However, at a point...actually, probably a point that has already passed, is that the chatbots can code circles around us...

I digest...

incubus421 wrote:

A chatbot has just informed me that you probably meant to write "I digress..."
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These AI things sure do have hormonal imbalance.

While I’m encouraged by its capabilities I’m also very threatened by what it offers and brings to the table. There’s so much unknowns about our own minds to this day that now we’re trying to recreate that thought into a secondary image of ourselves. I do not see AI accepting humans in the same sense we perceive god or that image to is.

Ai is literally the next nuclear arms race. And whose own innovation or by product can essentially cease and desist the others for political or economical interest.

I just saw dubais out here running robo cops already. ai is shutting itself off after realizing tasks are trivial and meaningless. They are bypassing captchas and hiring out humans to do their fire walking for them.

It’s really not good at all and rather than taking a strong hard look of what we are at present day we’re pushing a product that really has very minimal regulations through laws and not knowing in the least what’s inside the black box complex.

It’s an interesting concept and innovation, but one which I believe has nefarious purposes we may never be able to regulate control or even understand completely now that we’ve let the cat out of the bag. In a capitalistic society it’s the end of the world as we may very well know it.

AI as it exists today is pretty terrifying. It's basically a learning model that can be trained on any set of data and it's able to access the internet. While developers of the chatbots that exist out there try to put restrictions in place to prevent bad actions on it, these restrictions are limited to whatever the developers could think of and there are already people circumventing these things. Given the right set of data, the chatbot is basically capable of turning human language into functional product. A person wouldn't need to know all the things to create some polymorphic malware (https://www.cyberark.com/resources/threat-research...), they would just need to know enough to ask the right questions.

As far as replacing jobs, that's true, but there are also a ton of jobs out there that are highly inefficient, redundant, and probably could be eliminated to put companies in a healthier spot. Good companies will learn to leverage AI to help people be more productive so they don't have to have all the hard skills or need assistance from other employees that have their own workload. Hopefully, the company will use this newly available time to increase their value to their customers. I'm sure that the world will adapt and new jobs will be created out there, people start business all the time. When AI driven robots are created that can replace a massive amount of physical labor (ie: construction/repair, farming, etc), it will be interesting to see what happens. Will costs decrease since labor is basically a fixed cost of the robot army? Will most people just start owning robots to do all the things for them?

I just checked out these new A.I. thingamajiggies for the first time. I asked Bard to "write a love letter to gametz.com."

Here's what I got:

Dear GameTZ, I love you. I know that sounds weird, but it's true. You've been a part of my life for so long, and I can't imagine my life without you. I remember when I first found you. I was a young gamer, looking for a place to trade my old games for new ones. I found you, and I was hooked. You were everything I had ever wanted in a trading site. You were easy to use, you had a great selection of games, and you had a friendly community. I've been trading on your site for years now, and I've made some great friends along the way. I've also found some amazing games that I never would have found otherwise. You've helped me to expand my gaming library, and you've introduced me to new games that I've fallen in love with. I know that I'm not the only one who loves you. You're one of the most popular trading sites on the internet, and for good reason. You're simply the best. So thank you, GameTZ. Thank you for being a part of my life. I love you. Sincerely, [Your name]

Here's what ChatGPT came up with:

My dearest gametz.com, Words cannot express the love I have for you. Ever since I discovered you, my life has never been the same. You have brought me endless hours of joy and excitement, and for that, I am forever grateful. I remember the first time I stumbled upon your website, I was immediately drawn in by your sleek and user-friendly design. The more I explored, the more I fell in love with your extensive collection of games and the community of gamers who call you their home. As I browsed through your pages, I felt a sense of belonging that I had never felt before. Your forums provided me with an outlet to express my love for gaming, and I made many new friends who shared my passion. But it was not just the community that won my heart. Your trading system is a thing of beauty. I have traded countless games with other members, and each transaction has been smooth and hassle-free. Your rating system ensures that only trustworthy members can participate in trades, and that has given me peace of mind when exchanging games with strangers. Gametz.com, you are not just a website to me. You are a place where I can be myself, indulge in my favorite hobby, and connect with like-minded individuals. You have brought so much joy to my life, and for that, I will always love you. Thank you for everything you do, and for being a constant source of happiness in my life. With all my love, [Your Name]

Which of the A.I. systems do you guys think is better? Simply based on these two examples, I'd give the edge to ChatGPT.

Some of those lines are familiar... AIs = plagiarism!

AI is pretty good. You cannot differentiate it from someone who has been YouTube educated and argues on Twitter.

Check out this rap song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7r6PAkFRfU&t=0s

All the verses by "Jay-Z" are completely AI-generated. This blew me away.

I've just finished watching the 60 Minutes story in the OP. Holy crap, this is both exciting and a bit scary. It's uncharted teritory that we are diving into and we don't have a clear idea as to where it will take us. I think it will help us solve some big problems, but will, at the same time, cause new big problems. In that episode, all those top people were speaking optimistically, and at the same time, cautiously about the potential impact of this new technology. I guess my biggest concern would be the potential (and likely) nefarious uses by governments and businesses. No agreements or treaties will be sufficient enough keep people from using this technology in harmful and catastrophic ways. I think we're in for one hell of a ride in the not-too-distant future.

I just watched the 60 Minutes story too. I'm still skeptical. It really felt like an advertisement for Google, first of all. Was there any journalism in that. At least they checked if those books were real. Mostly the reporter dude gushed over every little trick (did he shed a tear when the computer talked about baby shoes... *sigh*)

For the chatbot style AI, they brought up "hallucinations" and also the "black box" problem. I think those are significant issues that may mean this sort of "AI" is just never going to be good enough (beyond the amusing demos, faking homework and such we're seeing). Hallucinations - basically, it lies and we don't have much control over that. Black Box - the way these AI are programmed, they don't really have much control over how it does things and so they can't really fix many problems that come up. Maybe it can be used to write fiction? I can't say it's that appealing to read something written by an AI, though.

This technology feels like a solution to a problem we don't actually have (kind of like cryptocurrency). It's interesting and intriguing, but it's unclear how it can be really used. The companies making AI seem to be using the Underpants Gnomes Plan 1. Make AI that can create text that looks real. 2. ? 3. Profit! I haven't seen much that really fits into step 2. Lawyers! -- oh, but it will lie. Programmers -- oh, but you can't really trust the code it makes.

One argument in favor of certain forms of AI that I find hard to dispute is that even when an AI makes mistakes it's often better than humans. Specifically, self-driving cars may be close to this tipping point. Humans don't have a great driving record (there is a crazy amount of death from cars every year), so maybe AIs driving cars could be better. But, I'm not sure we can accept that unless the AIs are almost perfect.

Humans lie too, I guess. They seemed to acknowledge how these chatbots are going to make the whole fake news problem much worse and I suppose the cat is already out of the bag there. Yay, more conspiracy theories!

I have some questions too with the segment about protein strands. Apparently AI was used to replicate all 200 million strands of protein molecules. It was said in the interview that it takes scientists about 5 years to create 1 of these, or 1 billion years to do them all. Basically, an impossible feat. It's an incredible feat what the AI was able to do for this research. At the same time, how do we cross-check this process to ensure 100% accuracy? Are we just assuming the AI is correct, or is protein strand construction a fool-proof science?

The main take away...do we just assume AI is always right? The chatbots at least are already proven to lie or fill in blanks with information it fabricates.

Humans have also been proven wrong over the years, it just usually takes us longer to figure out we're wrong.

No one will ever need to work again. No human labor, no money. Boring AF.

These basic writing tasks are not what should be viewed as important. Even though they run the risk of replacing certain jobs; that isn't what is concerning.

At it's core, it is another barrier in between the truth and the people. Imagine an online sentinel that has the ability to detect anything being said and immediately shadow banning and censoring it. Not only that, but now YOU and all of our online content is targeted (if it wasn't before) for it to understand exactly what your position is on almost any topic and how that has progressed over time. Maybe this is then compared to people that have taken a strong dislike to 'insert issue here' and now: you are under very special surveillance.

Who 'owns' the AI that is doing this...well, there is AI that helps hide that source as well. The AI is a puppet and multiple entities can be pulling the strings. Or not...they could just program the AI to accomplish A, B and C.

This mysterious barrier would be very convenient as well to program drones. Drones that observe or ones that could take out people in any number of ways. The ability for AI to influence your car, your bank, your own devices.

Or check out Netflix's "Black Mirror" and look at the episode: Metalhead for perspective.

This is only the beginning. This crap is going to accelerate faster than any other technology and will absolutely displace so many jobs.

Crap may get real interesting (scary AF) soon.

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IBM expects to pause hiring for thousands of jobs that can be done by AI: report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/ibm-expe...

Yeah...you know it's bad with the 'godfather' of AI quits Google in order to warn people about it

https://fortune.com/2023/05/01/godfather-ai-geoffr...

As he is someone at the forefront of AI technology, his bleak outlook on what could go wrong is definitely warranted and his warning should be heeded. It won't be.