Other thread died. Playoffs about to happen. Not a ton of seeding drama outside of a couple games. Chiefs pissed away the 1 seed, although it was entertaining. Chargers-Raiders interesting. Rams-9rs. AB is a nut job. Anywho...
Thoughts on current awards lines (this is if you understand money lines)... I see what I think is a fairly low risk bet. Rodgers is currently -400 for MVP. National media is pushing hard for Rodgers being unanimous MVP. I think Brady has a chance, but Rodgers ain't doing anything to hurt his case this weekend, and Brady ain't setting records or taking the 1 seed. Enter my #2 guy, Kupp. He's likely winning the triple crown, and could beat CJ's single season yardage record. A $100 bet on Rodgers covers any losses on a $30 bet on Kupp. Rodgers wins, you get pocket change. Kupp wins you win a few hundred. Brady wins and you lose. Taylor has an outside chance, but he's not breaking any records or the 2000 yard mark in a 17 game season. The other bet, which might be better is bet 30 on Kupp for MVP and 100 for OpotY. He wins the triple crown and he should get one of them. Only think stopping him is if Chase gets 3 more TDs than Kupp, or Taylor has a historic game.
I budget $100 each season for bets. Haven't placed any this season. Thoughts from any casual betters?
(Also intend for this to be the general NFL thread for the post season.. not just betting thoughts though that's welcome)
Edit: Generic betting disclaimer: Bet for fun, don't bet what you can't lose, seek help if you have a problem, any thoughts in this thread are not representative of GameTZ or @Bill (lest he states something), this is not intended as financial advice., etc.
In more important news, Little Caesars just replaced Pizza Hut as the NFL's official pizza sponsor. Unpopular opinion, LC's is better than Pizza Hut and Poppa John's. (Full disclosure, I never liked Poppa John's pizza)
I found this as a bit of a surprise as I didn't think they'd pony up the dough (a'hem).
That's fudging garbage by the Browns. They could've traded him months ago for this or more to Carolina or Seattle. Now he has two months to learn a new offense and develop chemistry.
Watson getting suspended, though Kraft got off (a'hem). Can't wait to see this crapshow for the brown.
>> Can't believe the Cards made Murray the 2nd highest paid qb.
>>
>> Preseason starts in less than 2 weeks.
>
> If they over paid on Murray imagine what Lamar will get. I wouldnt pay either top
> 10 money, I want a passer not a runner at QB.
Just think, by this time next year it's possible Mahomes and Allen will be near the bottom of top ten NFL QB salaries. Lamar, Russ, Herbert, Burrow all have two years or less. If Ryan can do well for the Colts he could easily ask for an extension too.
So many talented QBs... the AFC is stacked with young talent!
When I first heard the NFL was going down this path I was skeptical, but after seeing this I'll likely subscribe. $30 (currently on sale) to watch any game live or replay on a phone or tablet.
> Looks like it's only for the local region only, good luck if you like an out of market
> team.
Good catch. I don't know if the page updated or if I just goofed. I could have sworn it said out of market for regular season too. I also swear it said you got replays with commercials.
If it allows you to watch all prime time games (ESPN, Amazon) I still will probably do it. I think Chiefs-Chargers is Amazon.
Kyler Murray drama is hilarious. 2nd Highest paid QB, then it leaks his contract has a film study clause. Murray tries to downplay it initially but ultimately turns it personal. Team removes the clause. Media not going to forget for some time. Can't wait for the first reporter with the balls to ask him if he studied enough after a loss. lol
He repeatedly defended his work ethic, saying he wouldn't be where he is now if he didn't study. Funny thing is, if his work ethic and study habits were what he says they are then he should have read the contract and had the insulting clause removed BEFORE he signed it.
I did the trial for NFL+... what a crapshow. Nothing works. No customer service to be found. Should have known better.
Hopefully I don't have to do a charge back. In an endless loop of sign up, good news you're already signed up! Want to watch live? Sign in/up. Good news, you're already signed up! No live video/audio.
Way worse than Nintendo Online...
Edit: I finally got a ticket opened this morning, they sent a cookie cute response asking for more info, and ~4 hours after I replied they sent a follow up email with the same thing, and a few minutes later they sent another email saying my issue had been resolved. Garbage.
Edit 2: Wow they responded to my request to not close the request by opening a new request and immediately merging it into the first thus closing it with 0 communication.
Desaun Watson finally knows his fate. 11 Games, $5M fine. Hopefully this is the last of all that BS and we can somewhat get back to football, but I doubt it.
> Desaun Watson finally knows his fate. 11 Games, $5M fine. Hopefully this is the
> last of all that BS and we can somewhat get back to football, but I doubt it.
The browns trade for him has to be one of the worst of all time especially considering the guaranteed money. Assuming he doesnt get in more trouble it will be nearly 2 years since hes played. Not only did they pay him a boatload of money, they gave up a bunch of draft picks too. Its probably the most Browns thing ever...whoever made that trade should be fired.
Anyone doing fantasy leagues this year? I'm really struggling in mock drafts. Also planning on trying to get Pacheco late in all my drafts. KC doesn't run for crap, but he should catch some dump offs and has homerun potential. I think he is the #1 rb before midseason. I also think KC's defense could be a viable option at your lamid-season.
I'm usually a pessimist, but I'm actually optimistic KC will surprise all the doubters. I think KC's offense won't miss a beat without Tyreek. No doubt Hill was great on the field, but their wr depth is the best I've ever seen in KC.
I'm going wr heavy in my auction drafts. More teams are rb by committee nowadays, with only like 5 teams with solid #1s.. it's pretty bare when saquon barkley is still going in the top 7 at rb
This is the least prepared I've been for fantasy football. Had my first draft last night, second is tonight. Results from last night (1 pt PPR, auction):
QB Rodgers QB/WR/RB/TE Carr WR Hill RB Mixon TE Waller WR/TE McLaurin WR/RB Elliott K (Nobody Yet) Def Bal
Bench Metcalf M Thomas Renfrow Gibson Pierce Etienne Jr
I need to drop one for a kicker, maybe 2 if Waller doesn't play. I'm tempted to pick up Pacheco as well. I don't know what's going on with Gibson. I read they are planning on using him for kick returns, so not sure if he's viable. Renfrow is another drop candidate since I have Carr and Waller.
I'm probably dropping Gibson to get a K. Didn't realize he was benched for a rookie, though that rookie got shot twice yesterday so maybe it's worth hanging onto him. lol
Some crazy games. Flacco playing like his SB year, doing just enough. The Tyreek trade bought Miami 1 W so far. Jimmy G looking to get the 9rs back to the playoffs, dude is a derelict Alex Smith. Colts look like trash with Matt Ryan for reasons I don't know. Arizona woke up.
And disappointments left and right. Broncos & Russ are looking rough. Bengals are letting Burrow get demolished. As bad as the Jaguars have been they have beaten the Colts in Jacksonville for 8 straight years. Raiders are ….. ah, who cares, it’s the Raiders.
> Yeah. They tried to cheat protocol and killed him. Should cool the woke / killing
> the sport fudges.
They claimed it was a back injury (bullcrap) but they also activated their 3rd string QB before the game tonight so they absolutely knew they were playing with fire. Disgusting really.
I just watched it now. Looked like a clean tackle. Could just be a freak thing like Chargers TE Parnham last year. Hope Tua turns out ok; I'm sure there will be no shenanigans with the medical staff going forward if there even was any in the past week.
Didn't see what happened to Jones, but he got hurt. Tyrod came in and got in concussion protocol. Jones comes back in and lines up at wr 3 straight plays in wildcat. 4th play he lines up in shotgun and hands it off. Field goal. This turd of a game could be more interesting than the Buf-Bal rainfest.
Kinda glad the Giants knocked off GB. Rodgers is such a giant douche who needs to stop doing interviews/podcasts/etc.
The new concussion protocol is going to get really annoying. Pulled a few already. Cousins gets hit in the head, clearly can't get up on TV, lineman picks him up and he plays the next snap.
Edit 2: Wow, refs fudgeed the Falcons out of a chance...
This is probably the worst year for the NFL that I can recall since I've been watching, which is a shame as it's probably the most talented overall. Amazon Prime is a disaster. Reffing is the worst I've seen. Coverage is largely terrible. Damn near all of the media is playing TMZ. Socialmedia being it's usual septic tank. Players doing stupid crap more than normal. Normal amount of injuries.
> What I can't stand about Amazon is the broadcast team.
>
> McCaffrey is on the block. Will an elite team make run?
Reportedly the Rams, 9rs, Broncos and Bills have called. Only the Broncos have the cap room currently with the 9rs close. Do any of the teams aside from the Bills even have a first round pick?
Carolina going all in on rebuild. Be interesting to see what CMC does in SF with Jimmy G if he can stay healthy. Feels like they shouldn't have gone for broke with Lance.
Thoughts from last night's game: I don't think I've ever seen the Chiefs lose a coin toss. I'm not of the mind that these games are rigged, but have we still not thought of a method less arbitrary to decide who gets the ball first in overtime? Why not just use the defer rule from the start of the game? If you kicked it to begin with, you get it at half, if you got it at half, you kick it in OT? It's too much of a momentum shift to leave it up to chance.
Also, quite a questionable call on the Kelce PI. The defender has a right to his space. Jamming him and tossing him to the side by his helmet seemed more like Offensive PI to me.
Other recent thoughts: Refs still struggling to get calls consistently right. I see plenty of soft hits get called for roughing and plenty of rough hits go unflagged. PI is and always will be all over the place. That said, that is just the nature of the game. You see good calls, you see bad calls, some will be for your team, others against them. No one is ever going to get every call right 100% of the time, and fans are never going to agree with every call 100% of the time. Refs can't win and I would hate to have their job. I can't stand when you see a blatantly obvious penalty get called, but because it's against the home team, the crowd just erupts in booing. All reason goes out the window if it's against 'your' team. Sadly, it's just the nature of our society right now.
Speaking of booing, as a Patriots fan, I was ashamed of the booing of Mac Jones and chanting for Zappe a couple weeks ago. Every fan base has a vocal enough portion of asshats. Good job ruining a young QBs confidence. and good job to Bill and the coaching staff for putting Zappe into a bad ballgame just to ruin his confidence as well. That whole game/situation was a train wreck.
Despite the ups and down of the season, and seeing many decent teams struggle (Packers, Colts, Rams, Buccaneers), and typically struggling teams play well (Washington, Jets, Giants, Seahwaks). My biggest takeaway from this season is that:
Frank Reich fired and Jeff Saturday named interim head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. I think that is most bizarre coaching hire I have ever seen in the NFL.
I like Jeff Saturday, but it seems his credentials for coaching the Colts are "I played there for a long time". I guess he coached at a small Christian Academy for a few years. Let's see what he can do!
> Also, quite a questionable call on the Kelce PI. The defender has a right to his
> space. Jamming him and tossing him to the side by his helmet seemed more like Offensive
> PI to me.
>
>
I saw a lot of complaints this morning. One video linked had the perfect still image as a preview showing the Titans player with his hands wrapped in Kelce's jersey clearly holding him. lol Perhaps it should have been offsetting again?
I take the mentality that everything evens out in the long run. The Chiefs had more penalties and more penalty yards in the game... so it wasn't 1-sided.
AFC Playoff Standings after Week 13 1. Bills 2. Chiefs 3. Ravens 4. Titans 5. Bengals 6. Dolphins 7. Jets
In the hunt Patriots Chargers Raiders Browns (Other teams not going to make it... I considered putting the Browns here based on Watson's preseason/1 game regular season play, but they have a lot of talent so I'll give them another week.)
I view the Chiefs like I view the GS Warriors, if they play their game like they should they can beat the crap out of anyone, anywhere. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bills or Eagles win it all either. Vikings would be fun after all they've been through. I guess the Bengals and Bucs could get hot with the talent they both have. Cowboys, no please, and I think they'll choke anyway. I guess if I could pick who I would want to watch in the SB it would be Dolphins vs Eagles. Both are exciting and it would be a fresh air kinda matchup. If I was betting my money I'd take the Chiefs over the Eagles.
Despite the Garapollo injury, I have to think the 49ers will remain in the mix. That defense is stout! They just need Mr. Irrelevant or whoever else to dink and dunk to a few of the best open field runners in the league, and not turn the ball over. They might only win 20-10, but it will work.
I hope it's not the Bills, the Chiefs, or even the Eagles in the end. 49ers/Vikings/Buccaneers vs Dolphins/Bengals/Titans. I just have personal vendetta's against the other teams. Eagles were the last ones to beat the Pats in the SB, Bills are obviously in the Pats division, and while Mahomes is good, I can't stand the commentators when he's playing. Please don't say, "no one can do that" when he "no looks", or under hands a ball or side arms one, or even just scrambles....they can almost ALL do that these days! Of course, I realize my hypocrisy, many would say the same thing about the commentators ogling over Brady through the years.
Speaking of which, that 5 minute comeback by Brady over the Saints the other night was exactly what I've been missing since Brady left New England. Fun to watch.
> ... while Mahomes is good, I can't stand the commentators when he's
> playing. Please don't say, "no one can do that" when he "no looks", or under hands
> a ball or side arms one, or even just scrambles....they can almost ALL do that these days!
Sounding like Aaron Rodgers here. lol
I can't stand it when the Chiefs get a Tony Romo game. He constantly gushes about Mahomes to the point it sounds half sarcastic, except it isn't as he doesn't stop. And like you said it's not just him. They all gush over great plays, but as you said many can be made by a lot of qb's in the league, like a shovel pass. It takes away from the plays that not many QBs in the NFL can make, which are more rare.
I've said it before, but Mahomes made 3 of the 5 best throws I've seen a Chief's QB throw in my 30+ years as a fan in his rookie preseason. While that speaks to his talent, it also speaks to the lack of arm talent this franchise has had in my lifetime. I was on board with Mahomes from then on.
> Of course, I realize my hypocrisy, many would say the same thing about the
> commentators ogling over Brady through the years....
>
Whoa, a Pats fan that gets it. (I kid) The only difference I see is how quickly Mahomes got backlash. I gave Brady 4-5 years of starting before I was like enough already with the holier than though crap. With Mahomes it started after the SB (year 2 starting). Probably social media is to blame for both overexposure and excessive ridicule.
The dude has done nearly everything the right way. He's humble, says the right things, doesn't throw his teammates under the bus, pokes fun at himself, takes the blame for bad plays. He even passed on numerous endorsements his rookie season because he didn't want to be a distraction and he wanted to focus on learning from Smith and Reid. It's a shame the media (mistakenly?) did him dirty by going the god Brady route.
"I've said it before, but Mahomes made 3 of the 5 best throws I've seen a Chief's QB throw in my 30+ years as a fan in his rookie preseason. While that speaks to his talent, it also speaks to the lack of arm talent this franchise has had in my lifetime. I was on board with Mahomes from then on."
We aren't that far removed from a season where the Chiefs had 0 TDs by WRs. Insane.
Rams are probably more disappointing this year... SB Champ to giving the Lions a likely top 5 pick. Then there's the Broncos who many picked to win the division. Projected by Vegas to win ~10, likely to give Seattle a top 3 pick. Then there's the Packers... presumptive favorites to roll their division on their way to a 1 or 2 seed... fact is every year there are surprises and disappointments, but only a few surprises. This year is not much different. KC, Buffalo, Miami, and Cinnci are the major contenders. SD and Bal hanging around if they can stay healthy. Titans, Pats and Jets looking to play upset.
It's Philli and SF in the NFC. Dallas could contend, but it's Dallas. Minnesota is cursed. Detroit is ascending. The Giants and Command are battling for an upset game. Seahawks are waining..
Will be an interesting playoffs. Obviously rooting for the Chiefs. Can't be mad at a Buffalo or Cinnci win as things stand now. Brock or Jalen winning one would be fun, and frankly Dallas wouldn't disappoint me. If Detroit makes it and KC loses that's my team.
> Saw it coming with the rams. They sold out for a SB. It’s downhill from here. And
> Russell Wilson has been failing upward for a while.
I saw it with Russ too, but preseason I saw "expert" after "expert" picking everyone but the Chiefs winning that division, with some picking the Chiefs out of the playoffs without Hill... lol
The Rams lost partimers Von and OBJ. A couple other solid players. I thought they'd still contend, especially with the Seahawks going to Geno, SF going to Lance, and the Cards being the Cards. I'd have picked the 9rs if they went with a healthy Jimmy, as a Clones fan I'm not surprised Purdy is leading that team to interim success. He was great for the clones. Hope he can show enough to earn a chance to be their starter. He fits in with that SF QB mentality... not the most gifted, but enough talent, smart and gutsy.
So Matt Ryan is now the losing QB of the biggest regular season comeback, and the losing QB in the biggest comeback in the super bowl. I know he doesn't play defense but the Colts did have 5 field goals to just one offensive TD.
KCPenguins wrote: I'd have picked the 9rs if they went with a healthy Jimmy,
> as a Clones fan I'm not surprised Purdy is leading that team to interim success.
> He was great for the clones. Hope he can show enough to earn a chance to be their
> starter. He fits in with that SF QB mentality... not the most gifted, but enough
> talent, smart and gutsy.
I'm a lifelong Niners fan and am pretty happy with what I've been seeing this year, save for the Injury to Garoppolo. I've always liked him, but he has been prone to making bonehead mistakes in the past. However, this year, he's been about the best that I've ever seen him. I was very happy to see where the team was going until he broke his foot. Luckily this rookie is doing a wonderful job so far. I've been pleasantly surprised by Purdy. With our superb defense and wonderful arsenal, I think he can be successful into leading us on our continuing quest for six.
In what world is a toe on the line inbounds and counted as a TD!?!? I have not seen this upheld in all my years of watching football. I thought the general rule is: if there is no color/space/grass between the toe and the white OB line, the play is OB. image
Patriots / Jakobi Myers makes the most bone-headed of plays headed into what should have been OT. Why are we in desperation mode in the last play of regulation!? Game was tied! Why are we throwing laterals? End the play, end regulation, and play to win in OT. Terrible on every level. Pats offense is in shambles and there isn't just one person that deserves the blame. Undisciplined, poor play, bad mistakes. This is not all on Patricia. Jakobi should know WAY better then to throw a ball back to Mac Jones, who is all alone in the backfield with the D-line in his face. Ultimate embarrassment of a play. I didn't think I would live to see a Pats play more embarrassing then allowing the Dolphins to run back a TD on the last play of the game with Gronk in on Defense, but here we are.
Had to listen to the commentator say Derek Carr was "Mahomes-esque" when he shovel passed a ball on the run. Give me a break...
Other thoughts on the weekend, several good games.
Detroit is starting to look like a real contender and could definitely hand a few teams an upset should they make the playoffs. I'm hoping they do. That Vikings comeback was so strange. Somehow they climbed back into the game, but they didn't even make it look good. It was just sub-par football against a BAD Colts team in the 2nd half. Nice to see the Cowboys lose to the Jaguars. Have to bring them back down to reality every once in a while. Does anyone want to win the NFC South?
The end of his shoe is black. Compare it to his other shoe/foot. That look you posted shows pretty definitively that his toe was on the OB line. Kicking up white paint and all.
> That's probably why he always wore that wolf costume to the games. Avoid identification.
His current jail booking (publicly viewable) has wearing a mask in commission of a felony among the charges, wonder if it was the wolf mask lol. Date is the set court date.
ARMED ROBBERY 12/22/2022 Aggregate Bond $200,000.00 WEAR MASK IN COMMISSION OF FELONY 12/22/2022 Aggregate Bond $0.00 POSS FIREARM COMMISSION FELONY 1ST OFFENSE 12/22/2022 Aggregate Bond $0.00 THREATEN VIOLENT ACT 12/22/2022 Aggregate Bond $0.00
Like who does that? I know first row seats are expensive, but who robs a bank? How many bank robberies go unsolved with today's technology/LE? Must have been pretty desperate/in a low place.
Wow, Carr is being benched and the team won't admit it but it may be so that he doesn't get hurt and can't pass a physical in a few months, so the Raiders can cut him to avoid paying him big money. Does Davante demand a trade if his buddy Carr is gone?
Looks like Feb 14-15th will be telling. Guarantees $23M of '23 money and $7M of '24 money. He's not a bad QB, easily better than half the starters. Raiders better off giving the old ST's coach the HC job rather than Josh.
As a Jags fan I almost can't believe where Lawrence has this team after last season and the beginning of this season. I know the Jags can't compete with the Chiefs, Bills or Bengals just yet, but hopefully with a few more pieces the Jags can stick around for several seasons. On the other side, with Brady and Rogers near the end of the road, it might be a long stretch of AFC dominance. I think Hurts will be damn good for a while but who else has potential to make a long, strong run in the NFC? Geno Smith? Dak?
Not to be a homer but I truly feel San Francisco is the most complete team in the nfc.. their 2nd half defense had averaged giving up like 5 points per game and the offense hums with CMC and Purdy. I personally think purdy is the best sf qb in their roster.
> Except they got handled by falcons. Run defense sucks.
That was 11 weeks ago.. since then, they went 8-1 (loss to chiefs, then won 8 straight), traded for CMC and have only given up 20 points once since then (and it was last week when they were up 37-13). They have only given up 20+ points twice all season...
Barring a Packers meltdown, Lions-Packers next week for the final WC. Miami free falling, but can get in with a win against the Jets and a NE loss against Buf. (If I'm not mistaken)
> Eagles collapsing, 49ers can sneak in to the 1 seed with a win over Cards and an
> Eagles loss to Giants..
> 49ers/Raiders was a helluva game..
>
I was on pins and needles watching that game! I don't know what happened to the 49ers defense, but I'm glad the offense came through, but just barely. That was a rare miss for Gould for the game winning field goal. Now we just need a win next week and the Eagles to lose to the Giants, which is very possible.
>> Eagles collapsing, 49ers can sneak in to the 1 seed with a win over Cards and
> an
>> Eagles loss to Giants..
>> 49ers/Raiders was a helluva game..
>>
>
> I was on pins and needles watching that game! I don't know what happened to the
> 49ers defense, but I'm glad the offense came through, but just barely. That was
> a rare miss for Gould for the game winning field goal. Now we just need a win next
> week and the Eagles to lose to the Giants, which is very possible.
>
>
Only issue is that the Giants are locked into the 6th seed, no matter the situation next week, so they may rest guys... SF just has to beat the lowly Cards to lock in the 2 seed.. It's interesting that the 3 seed plays the giants, but the 2 seed could play detroit, green bay OR seattle..
I hope the Jags beat the Titans next week for the division. Tennessee resting Henry hurt me in several fantasy league's I'd love to see Houston win and the Bears lose so my Bears can get the first overall pick
Really hope that isn't serious. Bill's DB collapsed after a tackle, but didn't look like neck or head trauma. Stood up, took a step, looked ok and dropped untouched. Could be bad unfortunately. Really hope he's ok.
Edit: Fudge... CPR on the field. Praying for the young man. Puts things into perspective. Not sure how they can continue this.
Edit 2: Kudos to the Bengals coach for going to the Bill's coach/refs telling them to take their time or suspend it. ESPN needs to just cut away and run a rerun. It's uncomfortable watching Susie and Booger continue talking about this.
Some people on twitter have said that this could be a commotio cordis situation.. the fact that it's been an hour and still no word on the game is a big fudge up by the nfl. Just postpone till Wednesday
> Some people on twitter have said that this could be a commotio cordis situation..
> the fact that it's been an hour and still no word on the game is a big fudge up by
> the nfl. Just postpone till Wednesday
Honestly they don't have to announce what, just suspend the fudgeer for the night. They should not play tonight at this point regardless. At this point doesn't matter what they do.
Suzy kolbern, what a trooper. She looks like she's barely keeping it together. Looks like they are postponing as they are collecting equipment on bills sideline
Haven't been following NFL much this season but saw the play and, man, that is horrifying. Not looking good unfortunately. My thoughts and positive vibes go out to Hamlin and his family, and any fans of his. What a terrible situation.
It's just the fact that he's even contemplating the season in the midst of all this happening in real time. If he truly felt it was irrelevant, he should have probably just chilled for the night. I agree ESPN's coverage is worse (though the commentators seemed to have handled it with grace), but Bayless still sharing speculation right now is a little obnoxious too.
That's good news at least, let's hope he pulls it out!
If the CPR saves him from brain damage after not breathing on his own for so long, those medics deserve all the praise in the world. I'm no doctor though, so I don't know how likely/unlikely that is.
I don't believe that. I think the NFL delayed the game 5 minutes... I think the Bengels coach delayed it indefinitely from what I saw. Not remotely Bengals fan.
Josh Allen looked like he was in shock...
Edit: whoops, misread. 100% agree the field extended the delay. I believe it was the Bengels coach. Believe it was honest.
I guess the NFL gave the players 5 minutes to get back to the field before the game was officially suspended due to nobody wanting to play... after 10 minutes of active CPR trying to save a player's life. That's just fudging gross... but tbh that's nothing really new for the NFL's management.
Some physicians have theorized that it was cardiac rhythm disturbance... I forget the actual term for it. Essentially the electric pulse getting interrupted by trauma during a critical moment in the heartbeat. Obviously nobody knows for sure yet, but that is a real scary concept.
>> Hamlin’s agent tells CNN the Bills player is awake and has been holding hands
> with
>> family
>
> Absolutely incredible. I’m shocked that he has recovered like this. Great news
Fantastic medical response helped a lot. There was a hockey player that had this happen who went on to still have a long career as well. Kids in highschool generally aren't as fortunate because there isn't going to be much if any medical staff on hand.
Glad to hear Damar is doing much better. I don't follow the NFL that closely anymore but there's several articles from long before this happened to showcase his character. He really seems like a good guy trying to do the right things in life (ex: dude was working before high school to help support his family, he started the childrens toy drive, etc). When watching sports, people sometimes forget these are real people out there.
> I definitely think the NFL will change their sideline medical training to have AED's
> and other things to never have this happen again.
There's nothing to change. They had AEDs. They had everything they needed to give this young man the best chance to live. They have an emergency action plan (EAP) which outlines this, and it was executed in this instance, by all accounts very well.
I wish I could find the article that detailed it so well, but the gist of it is they have a pregame meeting at every NFL game with all medical personnel (home team, away team, independent... 15+ people). They go over the location of all medical devices including AEDs. They also have EMTs with an 'advanced' ambulance somewhere on site that can access the field, usually near the stadium tunnel entrance. All exits are discussed and multiple routes to all medical facilities within 30 minutes are laid out per the article.
It was the only article I saw on it early yesterday from a site I never heard of, now I can't find it as it's buried by every other major news source.
FYI - it's part of the CBA between the NFL and NFLPA.
Wife just showed me a report that shortly after gaining consciousness he asked via writing who won the game. That's really good news if he's conscious and lucid. (I have not seen anything other than that tweet)
Edit: Apparently that's from earlier this afternoon. Great news for the young man.
Buf-Cin declared no contest, will not resume. This hands Cinnci the division regardless of the outcome on Sunday, unless they play Bal in the first round then the home team will be decided by a coin toss. Possible neutral AFCCG site if teams played an uneven amount of games and "tied" for the 1 seed.
Assuming I read that all correctly, I find it odd they give the Bengels the division and coin toss for home field if they match up with Bal, but the AFCCG in a similar scenario goes to a neutral site for the 1 seeds. Totally understand there is no answer that will appease the masses though.
Edit: Proposals on seeding going to a vote on Friday it seems.
Happy to hear Hamlin is improving a little everyday. So scary to see.
I'm happy for my lions. After a few really bad seasons and starting 1-6, we finally have turned the corner. We have a lot of holes on defense so I don't expect anything one way or another this season, but with 2 firsts and 2 second picks coming up, I think we can get some more studs.
They've gotta be the sentimental favorites at this point. With the Patriots being an absolute sack of crap since Brady left, I've been a bit out of the NFL loop, so I'm rooting for the Bills personally.
Yea...not looking forward to Pats playing IN Buffalo, while the Bills are playing with all of the emotion of this week and for Damar. I've made a living despising the Bills, but I just can't this week. I foresee the Pats taking the L and getting booted out of the playoffs...I must take that graciously. On the other hand, Pats win and they're in. I hope they play tough as well. Just give us a good game!
I had a guy come out on Friday to give me an estimate for some minor house repairs. While he was out here, he said, "I'm sorry to see that you're a 49ers fan." He had noticed a couple of the Niners items I have in my house. We joked back and fourth a little bit, all in good fun. On his way out, he made a parting comment about how the Niners were going to lose. The funny thing is that I agreed to have him do the repair work, so when he shows up on Thursday, I'm not going to say a word about the game. I am, however, going to be dawning a Niners jersey. At some point I will offer him a glass of water, which, if he accepts, will be presented in a Niners cup. I'm gonna have a little fun with this.
> I had a guy come out on Friday to give me an estimate for some minor house repairs.
> While he was out here, he said, "I'm sorry to see that you're a 49ers fan." He
> had noticed a couple of the Niners items I have in my house. We joked back and fourth
> a little bit, all in good fun. On his way out, he made a parting comment about how
> the Niners were going to lose. The funny thing is that I agreed to have him do the
> repair work, so when he shows up on Thursday, I'm not going to say a word about
> the game. I am, however, going to be dawning a Niners jersey. At some point I will
> offer him a glass of water, which, if he accepts, will be presented in a Niners cup.
> I'm gonna have a little fun with this.
>
>
They looked rusty on defense in the first half, but came out like gang busters in the second half. Purdy is on another level right now..defense does what they do and dominate the second half (only giving up a garbage time td when they were up by 24). Most complete team.. cant wait for next week.
Oh, and jags dont play chiefs unless bills and Bengals both win..
Some Bengels sounding like douchebags. Going to the AFC championship game and they are whining the nfl presold tickets for the neutral site game, which they also did for a Bengels home AFC championship game. Others saying Mahomes better be 100% (which there is no way he can) as they don't want any excuses. (WtF? You've beaten them 3 times in a row) Burrow saying they are contendors as long as he is there.
I was happy for them last year, would have been happy to see them win it all. If I had to bet I'd bet on them to win on Sunday as I think they have more talent all around. Pretty annoyed by them at this point. Taking the Brady approach to take any possible warped perceived knock as the world is against them. (Sorry Brady fans... could have equally said Jordan) They are a great team, but they are sufferring a bit from little dog syndrome.
Can't wait to here this pregame... "We was called little dogs, but we the Bengels!"
Reporter "So your not little dogs, your giant furocious cats?"
Bengels players "reporters all calling us big pussies! Disrespectful!"
Edit: Also gg to the Jags, and (after last season) this was a great season for the franchise! Things are looking up, and be interesting to see what the offseason brings for that division.
I'm so excited/anxious about this Eagles/Niners game. I really think this one could go either way. I think it's great that the two best teams in the NFC are facing off. I'm expecting a low scoring affair, but my biggest concern is Hurts. We've gotta keep him in the pocket and make him beat us with his arm.
Josh Johnson looks completely lost for a veteran back up. Just check it down to CMC, Kittle, Deebo or huck it to Aiuke. Be curious to see how they open the half. Looks like they completely gave up on the idea of Purdy returning.
Between Purdy's injury and all of damn defensive penalties, it's not looking so good for the Niners. The good news is that our defense is playing good and we do have a fighting chance, but the odds are increasingly against us at this point. I hope they make some necessary changes in the second half and fight their way back. At this point, I don't expect the Niners to win, but I'm still hopeful that they will pull it off.
There is a 0% chance the 49ers win this game. If it was tied, maybe they could get away with running the ball. Down 2 touchdowns you either have to rely on the arm of a quarterback who shouldn't even be in the league or defensive/special teams touchdowns. That disaster of a drive at the end of the first half killed them.
I'm an Eagles fan. We always seem to play the best QB at the time in the SB (at least in my lifetime). Brady twice, now Mahomes. Mahomes is my guy, too. Watched him light it up at Texas Tech, and I've loved seeing him flourish under Andy Reid. Honestly, though, I think 1 SB for 5 straight AFC Championships isn't good enough with an all-time talent like Mahomes. I like Andy Reid, but that's why I wasn't sad to see him leave Philly. People call him the best coach in the league, but he's just not. His clock management is especially poor, and you know his teams will throw a lot.
Can't wait for the SB. I had to take off from work (I work Sunday-Thursday nights) because I knew I'd be too emotional (one way or another) to go in that night. I have to admit, I'm very worried. I believe Jalen's injury was much worse than we were led to believe. He has not looked right since it happened. It's my belief that he would've been put on the IR if we weren't in the playoffs. His health has everything to do with my prediction. If he's healthy and the deep ball is on, I think we win 34-27. If his shoulder still isn't right and he can't throw the deep ball, the run game won't be enough. Mahomes will cook us, even though we have some of the best corners in the league. 38-14 KC if that happens.
Brady retired, again, this time 'for good'. He retires with a ton of records, 7 rings, and a winning record against all but 3 teams. Only 1 team has a winning record against Brady.
9rs and Seattle split with Brady. The Chiefs are the only team to be 1 up on Brady, which surprised me as there were some bad Chief teams around 2010 give and take.
I know Brady is considered one of the best but I just dont like the guy. Having the ballboys deflate footballs was straight up cheating and he just seems like a real butt-hole in interviews. I'm glad to see him retire.
It's worth mentioning that 3 of 4 of the Colts' balls tested under the "required" psi that game as well. Not a sniff of an offense thrown at them. It's literally Brady/Pats hate at this point. NFL couldn't prove it in court. What they did have the power to do is uphold their disciplinary actions because they are a private business, guilty or not. Oh, I could go on forever, but then I'm just a homer.
The sideline tantrums I could do without. I'm not sure how grown men just sit there and let another adult act that way towards them on the sideline. This is why I'm glad to see BOB back with the Pats. He didn't always put up with Brady's crap. Aside from this, Brady has always carried himself well at the podium. His accolades are unmatched. Love him or hate him, I wonder if we'll see anything like it again in our lifetime. It's a shame so many people decided not to enjoy the ride.
Deflate gate was just one part. The whole cheating regime with 2 or 3 times caught cheating video taping other teams walkthroughs including the first super bowl they shouldn't have won against the rams. Then there was the "tuck rule" rarely if ever heard of since. The whole 20 years of patriot "Dynasty" and super bowl appearances needs an asterisk next to it. Bill was upset cause he lost 2 as defense coordinator for the browns so guess he figured cheating was the only was to win. They were certainly cheating more than they got caught. So Brady cannot be the "Goat" no more than Barry Bonds is greatest home run hitter, Roger Clemens, Mark McGwire, Lance Armstrong, Ben Johnson etc... Pete Rose to a different extent. The argument goes on. You aren't the greatest if you had to cheat to get there.
> Deflate gate was just one part. The whole cheating regime with 2 or 3 times caught
> cheating video taping other teams walkthroughs including the first super bowl they
> shouldn't have won against the rams. Then there was the "tuck rule" rarely if ever
> heard of since. The whole 20 years of patriot "Dynasty" and super bowl appearances
> needs an asterisk next to it. Bill was upset cause he lost 2 as defense coordinator
> for the browns so guess he figured cheating was the only was to win. They were certainly
> cheating more than they got caught. So Brady cannot be the "Goat" no more than Barry
> Bonds is greatest home run hitter, Roger Clemens, Mark McGwire, Lance Armstrong,
> Ben Johnson etc... Pete Rose to a different extent. The argument goes on. You aren't
> the greatest if you had to cheat to get there.
Lol this was a great read, I can only image what team you're a fan of. Clearly the Patriots either best you in the SB or routinely in the playoffs. Or maybe a Jets fan?
I'm not a superfan of any one team. I like 3 or 4 teams in each conference. I don't even care about them cheating except for the other teams that should have had a better chance to go to super bowls. It is what it is and if your a patriot fan that's cool. Just wanted to see who I would get a rise out of today.
Again I say, I wish people did more research on a topic before just spending the rest of their lives repeating headlines to others as factual information on why they don't like this, that or another thing (in this case the Patriots and Bill Belichick).
It wasn't cheating because the Patriots videotaped a walkthrough, that is legal! Every team has film on every other team. It's what they watch all year long. This was deemed illegal because it was videotaped on the sidelines, not in a press box. Second, even the Patriots' video assistant that came forth to the league said they never actually recorded the Rams walkthrough before the Super Bowl. This story was retracted and the source that broke it issued an apology. Clearly the damage was done, because people still believe these things.
I got a laugh because it just screams ignorance and that you aren't educated on what you're talking about. And the "cheating" at best addresses 3 of Tom Brady's/Patriots superbowls. How do you explain them winning the other 4/3?
Hey, Why did the patriots fire the 2 deflator employees the following day after that cheating game was uncovered? The one he won in Tampa with the great defense he had is legit I hope. Not sure why edelman didn't come over from the patriots with Toms buddy Gronk but he had enough to pull through that one year. Edelman was like his little brother or something, it was hilarious and sad watching the sucking up he did to Brady. However once you get caught cheating its just the same as all the other cheaters, you'll do it again and again. If you know what the team is calling when they give certain signals at the line you can audible into a play that will shut them down. Face it, that patriots team wouldn't have had a chance versus that rams team otherwise. They got lucky to beat carolina a couple years later on another bogus call late in the game. The 28-3 comeback versus Atlanta is mighty suspect also as it looked like the falcons just stopped playing. That whole game looked very rigged from the start. Then on the other hand it was nice when the patriots went in with that 18-0 record and so much arrogance headed to the super bowl and the Giants beat them. Then again in 2011. He got his 7 rings and off to retire and divorced cause he put a season he was in decline ahead of more important things in his life. That said a lot for his character. Bill will continue on with mediocre teams till he retires or figures out a new cheating scheme. Face it, Tom was just a system quarterback with his 3-5 yard passing and occasional longer pass. It worked though cause nobody played bump and run on those receivers for whatever reason. They would stand 10 yards off and let them catch the ball and it was make a move or two and get 15-20 or get tackled and get 5 yards at a time. When he got hurt you had other scrubs like Matt Cassel, Ryan Mallett and Jacoby Brissett come in and pretty much do the same as Brady did. So when he would get hurt Bill would hide the injuries on the reports and such. Oh and then there are the Brady rules: Can't hit quarterback in the head, below the knees, can't land on the quarterback, don't tackle him too hard or he will cry. Put a dress on his ass and be done with it.
> Hey, Why did the patriots fire the 2 deflator employees the following day after that
> cheating game was uncovered? The one he won in Tampa with the great defense he had
> is legit I hope. Not sure why edelman didn't come over from the patriots with Toms
> buddy Gronk but he had enough to pull through that one year. Edelman was like his
> little brother or something, it was hilarious and sad watching the sucking up he
> did to Brady. However once you get caught cheating its just the same as all the other
> cheaters, you'll do it again and again. If you know what the team is calling when
> they give certain signals at the line you can audible into a play that will shut
> them down. Face it, that patriots team wouldn't have had a chance versus that rams
> team otherwise. They got lucky to beat carolina a couple years later on another bogus
> call late in the game. The 28-3 comeback versus Atlanta is mighty suspect also as
> it looked like the falcons just stopped playing. That whole game looked very rigged
> from the start. Then on the other hand it was nice when the patriots went in with
> that 18-0 record and so much arrogance headed to the super bowl and the Giants beat
> them. Then again in 2011. He got his 7 rings and off to retire and divorced cause
> he put a season he was in decline ahead of more important things in his life. That
> said a lot for his character. Bill will continue on with mediocre teams till he retires
> or figures out a new cheating scheme. Face it, Tom was just a system quarterback
> with his 3-5 yard passing and occasional longer pass. It worked though cause nobody
> played bump and run on those receivers for whatever reason. They would stand 10 yards
> off and let them catch the ball and it was make a move or two and get 15-20 or get
> tackled and get 5 yards at a time. When he got hurt you had other scrubs like Matt
> Cassel, Ryan Mallett and Jacoby Brissett come in and pretty much do the same as Brady
> did. So when he would get hurt Bill would hide the injuries on the reports and such.
> Oh and then there are the Brady rules: Can't hit quarterback in the head, below the
> knees, can't land on the quarterback, don't tackle him too hard or he will cry. Put
> a dress on his ass and be done with it.
@ChuckyDJ
Deflategate You're wrong again. The Patriots SUSPENDED those two equipment managers in May...and reinstated them in September. AND they could only be reinstated with the NFL's consent.
Furthermore, Deflategate is more laughable then Spygate. The Patriots team of lawyers had scientists present actual evidence that said, "yea, that's about the psi you would expect given the conditions of when/where they were inflated and the conditions of the game". This would also clear the Colts of any wrong doing, as 3 of their 4 balls were below psi as well, including 1 ball under by 2.0psi, the "alert" limit. You know who didn't present scientific evidence? The NFL! Of course, someone mad at the Patriots will just claim the scientists are biased. I've already posted the link to the rebuttal to the Wells Report, but its quite lengthy. Here it is in Layman's terms but I think your mind is already made up, since you completely disregarded the factual evidence that the Patriots did not record the Rams' Super Bowl walkthrough. http://YourTeamCheats.com/NE#Deflategate-2015
Signal Stealing Signal stealing is all part of the game. Tony Dungy, Deion Sanders, Jimmy Johnson, Peyton Manning, all on record admitting it and/or have examples of other players/coaches doing it. Do broadcasts stray away from airing offensive/defensive signals or coach call sheets live? Why do you think players wear wristbands with plays on it? Why do coaches cover their mouths when they talk on the sidelines? Signal stealing is not illegal and it's not in the NFL rulebook. If a player comes over from another team, they have inside knowledge of another team's signals or audibles. Do you think they keep that to themselves so they aren't "cheating", nope they don't! Part of the strategy of the game is mixing up or masking your signals. It's well documented.
Literally THE ONLY way it is against the rules to "spy" is if you record it during a game and then use the recording to make adjustments in the same game. Before you even try, it was proven over and over again and admitted to by Goodell and the NFL that the Patriots did not use any film during the same game.
Scrub QBs Matt Cassel and Jacoby Brissett went on to be starting QBs on other teams. Matt Cassel went 10-5 in his second year with the Chiefs after NE and was selected to the Pro Bowl. Jacoby played well with the Colts, and even outplayed Deshaun for the Browns just this season. Scrubs, right?!
Roughing the Passer / "The Brady Rules" Roughing the passer has been in the rulebook since 1940. Brady played well before the league started tweaking this rule. It was tweaked in 2009 (Brady started the 2001 season) to protect QBs from low hits after a Chiefs player on his hands and knees dove at Brady's leg, resulting in an ACL tear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzQVmZDXS4w Agree with it or not, the QB is the only position that steps into a hit from the biggest players on the field from a mostly stationary position. The only other tweak to the rule is landing on the QB with full body weight. This didn't happen because of Brady, the Romo/Rodgers collar bone injuries more likely, and I think it's a largely unpopular rule change.
> Agree with it or not, the QB is the only position that steps into a hit from the
> biggest players on the field from a mostly stationary position.
> The only other tweak to the rule is landing on the QB with full body weight. This
> didn't happen because of Brady, the Romo/Rodgers collar bone injuries more likely,
> and I think it's a largely unpopular rule change.
You can voice you're opinion just like I can and you can send links to information that I won't read all day. In the end like I said before I'm not a fan of any single team. I'm not a Patriots fan that's true. I enjoy routing against them for various reasons but I don't hate Brady or Belichick. I am a fan of 4 other teams in the afc and mainly pull for players rather than teams in some cases too. Whether the NFL made more of their cheating or whatever you want to call it is what it is though. Any time you gain an unfair advantage over your opponent thats what it is referred to. If the other teams cheated and didn't get caught or called out so be it.
Yes those other qb's were scrubs, I don't care that they has a season somewhere else with a playoff/super bowl ready team and had a decent year, The point is when they came in for Brady the show rolled on pretty much the same. When Payton Manning got hurt the team collapsed in Indy and Denver, When Roethlisberger declined and then left Pittsburgh just barely maintained. When Aaron Rodgers gets hurt or moves on/retires watch what happens with the packers. In you're defense you could argue the last couple New England years Brady kept that ship afloat but that is a Belichick problem not getting any receivers for Tom and letting the offensive line go down the drain while working on the defense so much.
The "Brady Rules" I stand by though. He gets all the calls and more and when he doesn't he gets up and starts crying like a baby and goes to the sideline and physically abuses his tablet. Please get him his pacifier and his sippy cup.
I shouldn't have called it signal stealing, how about stealing the whole offensive game plan for super bow/playoff games. That's what it actually was, my bad on that part.
Back to the Brady rules for a second though Cam Newton, Lamar Jackson, Ben Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees and I could go on and on didn't get those kind of calls. Maybe its because Brady is a statue but more likely because of ratings. The quarterbacks should be protected much better though. Look at punters and kickers in general you can't even have a breeze blow on them and they get the yellow flying. Quarterbacks are much more valuable then the 6 or 8 play a game soccer stars.
This conversation is largely opinion versus the actual facts, not opinion versus opinion.
Here's one more fact for you: the Roughing the passer calls since 2009. You, know, when your first "Brady Rule" went into effect. Matt Ryan is the leader in RtP calls by a large margin over Brady. Russ and Cam ahead of Brady in that stat as well, and Cam has been gone for two years. Brees (gone for two years) and Roethlisberger (gone for 1 year), just 3 and 5 RtP calls behind Brady. It's worth noting that Brady has played/started in 50-100 more games then all but Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers during the 2009-2022 span (30 more than those two). It's really easy to just verify information... https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughing-the-passer-b...
Most of your talking points are just flat out wrong. It's easy to believe any negative headlines/stories when you already have preexisting disdain towards a team, player, or coach.
Dude I could care less in case this isn't already clear. Think what you want to, believe what you want to. Apparently you have a lot more free time to do research on this stuff than I do. If you're a Tommy and Billy fanboy so be it. I just got tired of all the fond farewell propaganda and decided to give an opposing view. The defense rests.
There are half a dozen curses going against the Chiefs per the media, and then there's Carl Cheffers. If the script is in, it's the Chiefs losing. LOL
Gonna be cooking up a some of the unhealthiest apps. Buffalo wings, nachos, brisket. The alcohol will offset the arteries closing, right? I hope I can take a nap in the afternoon.
Brisket is on the smoker. Should be done around 5. I normally do apple cider and half a beer as the braise liquid, tempted to try bourbon instead of beer this time. Going to burnt ends some, chop some, slice some and for the leftovers another attempt at habanero bourbon brisket chili tomorrow.
Heading to a pal's house in a bit to ALSO snack on smoked meats before the game. I have no horse in this race so I'm just gonna enjoy the food and football.
How many fudging games are decided by bullcrap penalties like that? The Chiefs got into the SB because of a last second questionable 15 yard penalty that got them into field goal range. I'm so tired of the refs deciding the outcome of every close game.
Interesting tag day. Daniel Jones gets 4 year $160M (Carr got $10M less) and Geno got 3 year $75M.
Lamar, Saquan, Pollard, Josh Jacobs, Even Engram and Daron Payne all received non-exclusive franchise tag. That means the price for former MVP QB Lamar Jackson is 2 first round picks. I wonder what the Packers are asking for Rodgers?
Chiefs let starting LT Orlando Brown walk, and release DE Frank Clark. Paying either of these big $ would be a mistake imo, but we'll see what Veach ultimately does.
@KCPenguins all that and the Jets, Packers and ARod are talking as well. Thats a head scratching deal Daniel Jones got. Is the league that starved of young QBs? Jones has played 4 seasons (54 games), and this last season he threw 15 TDs in 16 games.
I think a lot of people are overlooking the 700 yards and 7 TDs he ran for last season, top 5 amongst QBs in both stats. He has a little more upside than a pure pocket passer. I still don't think the 40mil/yr+ was a great number to pay for him, but I don't think I've heard one analyst bring up his rushing stats when making their case against him.
In other news: Zac Stacy gets just 6 months for the despicable violent action he took against his former gf
Joe Mixon under investigation for allegedly firing real guns at his house during a kids nerf gun party next door, or something.
Sid from Toy stor...I mean Derek Carr gets a big signing with the Saints. Seems like a good fit.
Man, Orlando Brown Jr signed with the Bengels for $3-4M less per year than what the Chiefs signed their new swing tackle... and even more of a diferential from what they offered him last offseason. Brown's father told him to be a LT to get that LT money, but RT money has gotten much closer to LT money in recent years, so much so being a top 5 right tackle is a good amount better than being a mid-tier LT like Brown is getting paid. I wonder what the Bears would've offered Brown at RT?
I'm not a fan of the contract the Chiefs gave Taylor, but I don't really know much about him. Reports are he's terrible at run blocking, very good at pass protection. At this point the Chiefs front office has earned the benefit of a doubt from me.
I hate that the Jags let Taylor get away. He might not be the best run blocker but he was dependable. This is from PFT…
“Taylor was a Jaguars second-round pick in 2019 and he’s started every game that Jacksonville has played over the last four seasons. The right tackle did not miss an offensive snap during his first three years in the league and missed just 35 of them during the 2022 season.”
Lamar tweeted he officially requested a trade. I don't see this working out well, similar to Rodgers and GB. Not that many jobs open at this point, and the jobs that are open are by teams that are unlikely to give up 2 firsts. Maybe they can do a trade including other players with a pick or two and not claim him off the tag to lesson the damage on giving up 2 firsts.
This feels like Rodgers before he got his big contract, and I'm guessing Jackson stays in Bal for the near term.
Are Browns fans enjoying the fact that this is likely due to their gross contract they gave the sex predator? When the Chiefs lost Hill Raider fans were going bonkers that it was their doing by dumping truckloads of money to Adams. I'm fine with how that turned out.
Agreed. He needs to hire an agent, or at least get an opinion outside his inner circle. If they don't get anything done, I bet he plays on the tag and sits out for any little injury. If he does, the bridge will officially be burned in Balt.
It'd be a shame for him if he ends up like Orlando Brown Jr by taking a significantly smaller contract than what his then team offered and end up on a different team.
Rodgers trade about done (but since it's Rodgers I'm sure something will stir drama).
The Jets receive Rodgers, the Packers' 2023 first-round pick (No. 15 overall) and a fifth-round pick (No. 170) in exchange for New York's 2023 first-rounder (No. 13), 2023 second-round (No. 42) and sixth-round (No. 207) picks, as well as a conditional 2024 second-round selection that could become a first if Rodgers plays in at least 65 percent of the Jets' snaps this year.
Packers got more than I thought they would with the weird way the NFL values vets. I wonder if the Pack pay part of his salary? Patriots should be heavy favorites for bottom in the division.
Everyone counting the Patriots out is exactly what the Patriots will love about the upcoming season. I'm comfortable with the Mac Jones and Bill O'Brien combo...if only we had a true WR1. There's still time. Even so, there isn't any reason to think the Pats offense will play worse then they did last year and the defense should remain a top 7 or 8 defense.
Personally, I think both the Bills and Dolphins lose a little steam this season as compared to last year. While the Jets gain momentum. The AFC East will be very competitive this year.
Pats suck, and I say this as a pats fan. One of the least talented teams in the NFL. Bill B will still get you wins you don't deserve, so they'll never finish with a poor enough record to draft a viable QB.
Everyone saying Jwts are a legit SB threat seems premature. Roger's was awful mast year, AWFUL. QBR isn't everything, but he slotted in 27th, right behind Matt Ryan and just ahead of Russell Wilson and... Mac Jones.
Maybe Roger's becomes great again, but I don't believe there was any injury or anything to point to for his steep decline. Very possible his career as a top QB is over and he jusy collects 60 million the next two years from the Jets.
> Draft day! I don't follow college football much, but I love the draft and all the
> coverage.
Yep, I don't know much about the up-and-comers either. I think this first round draft class is weaker then in years past. I've heard talking heads say that only 5-10 players are truly worth a 1st round pick. It will be interesting to see if teams try to trade away their 1st pick. Still, I took Friday off work to have a few friends over. We typically make an end of the week celebration out of it. Pizza and drinks tonight, casino day trip tomorrow, and more draft watching Friday evening. Should be fun.
>> Trades galore... DeMeco Ryans didn't look happy with the Stroud pick, was extatic
>> with the next Anderson pick. Troubling sign for his tenure.
>
> He’s a defensive guy and Bama alum. He’s been after Anderson and pretty open
> about it.
I say it's a troubling sign for his tenure because it was obvious he wasn't on board with Stroud and yet the Texans picked him anyways. GM and HC need to be lock step.
I think the team wanted will - I’d consider him the best in the draft- and the suits wanted a QB. Boss move to take stroud off the board to likely make the Anderson get possible. Reverse the order and it likely doesn’t happen. Suits look clever here. Both players is 100% the better play.
Falcons made a good pick with the off season they’ve had. Fan service and a dude that will probably sell jerseys- catches passes well too. I was hoping for an edge but they grabbed a few already.
I'll be interested in seeing how this qb class turns out. Bryce Young sounds like a leader. Stroud not so much. (Based on post draft interviews) Both have great resumes. Richardson is safe as even if he doesn't work out as QB1, they can still use him as a gadget player a la Taysom Hill.
Excited for rounds 2 & 3. Chiefs checked the box for one position of need with FAU. Now need someone to compete for RT, a WR, and DL. Then go for S, RB, and another WR.
I’m expecting Levis will be the best nfl quarterback in the long run. He’s manageable, has the skill set and tough as nails. And now the world has seen him sweat with his family and he’s got that chip.
It will be interesting to hear his first interview after being drafted. I think that will tell you a lot on how well he will do in the NFL. It's being reported the Titans, Falcons and Raiders all tried trading back into the end of the first, and Pittsburg said they've had multiple offers to trade the first pick in the 2nd.
They tried to lure Tom Brady and Sean Payton to their van with candy. (They apparently recruited both while they were under contract without permission and outside of the legal tampering period... if that even applied)
Hopefully not true, but there is a rumor that there will be Peacock exclusive game not aired on NBC. If true that would certainly piss off a good portion of an already irked fan base. Guess we'll know officially soon enough.
I was a huge MLB fan. I quit following it slowly after the games all went to cable/satellite networks, and now I don't even know who are playoff contenders.
I listen to MLB on local radio only. I go to 3-5 games a season. May watch highlights 1-2 times a year. There’s just so much there it’s easy for me to be a fan.
The NFL just approved to give the option to flex late in the season games to Thursday night. Huge blow to many fans and players. Also can't wait for them to flex a game where a key player is injured.
>> The NFL just approved to give the option to flex late in the season games to Thursday
>> night. Huge blow to many fans and players. Also can't wait for them to flex
> a game
>> where a key player is injured.
>
> They have to flex the game 28 days in advance, so...
So if I buy tickets more than a month in advance, because you know you might have to put in for vacation for travel, book plane tix, and they flex it... tf are you supposed to do?
Week 13: Seahawks at Cowboys Week 14: Patriots at Steelers Week 15: Chargers at Raiders Week 16: Saints at Rams Week 17: Jets at Browns.
There are a lot of rules that have to be implied before you can flex out a game: The games are limited only to Weeks 13-17, the decision must be made no later than 28 days in advance of the game, there's a maximum of two Thursday night games that can be flexed out of the five options and, of course, the game has to warrant being flexed out of.
Looking at the schedule based on last year's performances, Saints/Rams and Jets/Browns look like the most likely games to be flexed, with the Pats/Steelers in a close 3rd.. The other 2 could be potential great games..
Per NFL 7% of fans actually go to games (their stat) - it seems like making a decision to better the television product for millions is better fan service than appeasing the thousands with tickets to flexed games. Seems like a business and fan friendly decision that just makes sense.
Except they are flexing better games to a paid subscription service. How is that fan friendly? Kommie said it. This is all about $'s. This is not in the best interest of fans or players.
> Except they are flexing better games to a paid subscription service. How is that
> fan friendly? Kommie said it. This is all about $'s. This is not in the best interest
> of fans or players.
It’s simple numbers. You’re placing more value on different fans’ situations. You don’t need to tell me it’s about money- this is obvious- but it is definitely an attempt at a better product and more sales of tv games to more fans. This has always been about selling the game to the highest bidder - nothing new. Thursday games are terrible for the players as well. That will likely never be considered.
Citation of the 7%- not sure it’s actually true out of this guy’s mouth-
-But the determination the league and the owners have made is that, all of those people above who are impacted across those teams and cities equal a number that is far less than the number of people who will be watching on a screen somewhere. And that number is what matters.
"Very, very important point," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Monday when the inconvenience to the fans was mentioned. "Every owner in that room lives and breathes sensitivity to those fans. But only 7% of our fans have ever been inside a stadium. Seven. Percent. So you've got a lot of fans -- a huge majority of the fans that are out there -- that this is good for them."-
NFL is a TV show for millions with a live option for thousands. The part of the equation that really should matter the most is the players who need to perform / earn- Thursday is a nightmare. NFLPA has to be stringently opposed to this. The set of conditions for a game to actually be flexed into Thursday is pretty large- so it may not happen at all anyway.
I'd love to see Houston win and the Bears lose so my Bears can get the first overall pick 
